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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:36 pm
by Kaito-kun
Matty wrote:I'd wrote a nice long paragraph about this but y'know what, fuck it

Why bother when it will just be torn to shreds & points blatantly ignored?
No, please contribute. I'm genuinely interested in seeing your view; especially if you care as much as you imply you do.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:12 pm
by Gavvie
I must admit, I'm interested in people's point of view on this as well.

On a side note, I can only wonder how much longer it'll be until Anon and LulzSec attempt to take each other down...

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:55 pm
by Dr Shaneman
Gavvie wrote:On a side note, I can only wonder how much longer it'll be until Anon and LulzSec attempt to take each other down...
I was wondering this as well.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:02 pm
by RWDebara
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Gotta love when the news screw up

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:35 pm
by Shadid
After researching both parties and investigated further, I can throw down my two cents:
Kaito-kun wrote:That's what annoys me about this new lot. I wasn't a supporter of Anonymous but I could see their logic and reasoning for who they targeted with their "We're doing to to protect the rights of humanity" rhetoric but Lulzsec are just pathetic. They appear to be causing disturbances for the sake of it. No fantasies about trying to save the world, no sinister government agency trying to take down the enemy; Lulzsec appear to be nothing more than a gaggle of basement dwellers sitting in the dark announcing "hurr durr we iz takin down ur webz an stealin ur details". I can't understand why anyone in their right mind would be supportive of their actions.
There's obviously an invisible line between Anon and LulzSec. As you said, Anon are actually fighting for the rights of humanity (if you're saying they're twats, watch V for Vendetta carefully and understand their true objective). LulzSec, for the contrary, aren't standing up to anyone but themsels. As they mentioned in their 1000th Tweet Statement, anyone could've entered our accounts and is just toying with you. Yes, they did not release the Brink user details. But that doesn't mean they are good for any reason. They are bringing unwanted attention, and the things that they are doing will bring unwanted consequences, especially from governaments and their internet-specific laws.

The only thing they are right on is that no-one's safe. that still doesn't mean they should toy with people because of "security".

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:46 pm
by richarddavies
I can't beleive you just compared Anon to V. I just can't.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:50 pm
by Shadid
richarddavies wrote:I can't beleive you just compared Anon to V. I just can't.
Why do you think Anon wear Fawkesian masks? Just wonder.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:51 pm
by Reknoc
Taking inspiration from a comic book is maybe not the best defense for them.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:56 pm
by Shadid
Reknoc wrote:Taking inspiration from a comic book is maybe not the best defense for them.
Not the comic, the movie. Even though it's based from it, there are some truths to their objectives. Just look at AnonOps and you'll see why. People are standing up to their governaments. People are sick of being pushed around.

But since I won't convince you otherwise, might as well zip it for now.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:35 pm
by Kaito-kun
Shadid wrote: As you said, Anon are actually fighting for the rights of humanity
They believe that they're righting for rights; it doesn't necessarily mean that they are.