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p_nut_uk
23-06-2008, 01:16
Hi kids!

I'm a huge fan of Knuckles and he's my favouirte character in the Sonic universe, what's all of your favourites? Heaven knows we have a large selection to choose from!

Wolfdemon59
23-06-2008, 01:59
Sonic Knuckles and Robotnik

Savage Adam
23-06-2008, 04:03
A massive tie between Big the Cat, E-102 Gamma, and Chaos. Why? Because SA was uber sweet deliciousness.

neocoyo
23-06-2008, 04:44
I'm going to go with shadow on this one, I mean the whole "I don't know who I am, but I don't care what everyone else thinks" attitude to him works. Also you have to admit black and red looks better than just blue......but hey that's just my opinion

sonicfanRICH
23-06-2008, 09:55
The blue hedehog has always been my favorite. Having Knux and Tails along is always good. Amy is extra. My favorite "villian" characters would have to be Shadow and Metal Sonic. They need another Sonic vs Metal race like in Sonic CD, but instead they did it with Shadow.

nights_c
23-06-2008, 10:50
My favourite is Tails :boring: ^^

Dr Shaneman
23-06-2008, 10:52
Robotnik is the best ever character to me. He's just one of the best villains I've seen and can make it comical.
Shadow ans Knuckles are pretty good as well. I normally choose them as characters to play as when I can regardless of their stories.

Reknoc
23-06-2008, 11:44
Scratch and Grounder :D... Unless it has to be from the games, then in that case Omochao.

Dr Shaneman
23-06-2008, 12:07
Scratch and Grounder :D... Unless it has to be from the games, then in that case Omochao.
Oh man, yeah. Those guys made AOSTH.

Gavvie
23-06-2008, 19:41
I must say I'm quite fond of Shadow and E102-Gamma, although I did also like E101-Beta Mk. II. He had good boss music :P

Kaito-kun
23-06-2008, 19:49
Tails. (Until he opens his mouth.) Follwed by Robotnik, Sonic and Omochao.

willz
23-06-2008, 20:00
Amy Rose! A Pink Hedgehog that wields a Giant Hammer.... Brilliant!
Also Froggy is pretty much forgotten about, but I quite like him.
Anybody know why he's got a pointy tail?

Tails_1986
23-06-2008, 21:30
Scratch and Grounder :D... Unless it has to be from the games, then in that case Omochao.

Scratch and Grounder were very good characters on AOSTH. They added a lot to the experience ... As in the games I'm more of a Sonic & Knuckles fan, followed closely by Tails and Robotnik (not Eggman).

Shadid
23-06-2008, 21:35
My favorites are Sonic, Knuckles, Tails and Omochao.
I only PRAISE Sonic & Knuckles because I'm a S3&K fan.

Rayne
23-06-2008, 22:33
Used to be tails =] he was the coolest character ever

But 3D killed him...so now, Amy Rose :blush: or maybe shadow :P

Kool Chao
23-06-2008, 23:11
I must say Sonic, he's really my favourite character, although Tails and Robotnik are close behind.

Scratch and Grounder :D... Unless it has to be from the games, then in that case Omochao.

Tails. (Until he opens his mouth.) Follwed by Robotnik, Sonic and Omochao.

My favorites are Sonic, Knuckles, Tails and Omochao.
I only PRAISE Sonic & Knuckles because I'm a S3&K fan.
Wow, so much love for Omochao! XD Whyyyyy????

Also Froggy is pretty much forgotten about, but I quite like him. Anybody know why he's got a pointy tail?
He had a pointy tail in Sonic Adventure because he swallowed Chaos' tail.:)

willz
23-06-2008, 23:52
He had a pointy tail in Sonic Adventure because he swallowed Chaos' tail.:)

I Totally forgot. Thanks for reminding me!

7Force
24-06-2008, 00:13
I dont have a number one fave but I do like Sonic, Amy, Tails, Blaze, Knuckles. Shadows not to bad I guess even though he's emo all the time.

Rouge aint to bad either even though she acts and sounds like a hooker.

Rayne
24-06-2008, 11:21
Actually changed my mind! If its from the TV series I'd choose sonic underground...the pink hedgehog was funny...so was sonic, it was soooooooo cheesy...and with all the chillie dogs he eats I'm amazed he can even stand up :blink:

Dr Shaneman
24-06-2008, 11:40
Actually changed my mind! If its from the TV series I'd choose sonic underground...the pink hedgehog was funny...so was sonic, it was soooooooo cheesy...and with all the chillie dogs he eats I'm amazed he can even stand up :blink:
I do wonder why they dropped the whole chilli dog thing...

Rayne
24-06-2008, 11:45
I do wonder why they dropped the whole chilli dog thing...

I remember being like 10 and trying one...and hating it XD

What does he eat now? Nothing...He has an eating disorder, what sort of message does that send to children?!

Dr Shaneman
24-06-2008, 12:03
I remember being like 10 and trying one...and hating it XD

What does he eat now? Nothing...He has an eating disorder, what sort of message does that send to children?!
Well, if I remember Sonic X he seems to just eat anything anybody makes him.

Reknoc
24-06-2008, 14:28
I remember being like 10 and trying one...and hating it XD

What does he eat now? Nothing...He has an eating disorder, what sort of message does that send to children?!

A better one than a character eating Chili Dogs all the time.

"CHILI DOGS!? YUMMY! AHMNOMNOMNOM"

I also tried them because of the cartoon...

richarddavies
24-06-2008, 14:39
No way, I totally forgot about his chilli dog fetish. He'd get panned for not eating healthy food these day's.

JoeMusashi
24-06-2008, 15:34
My fave has to be Knuckles. Mainly because of the awesome theme song that represents him in Sonic Adventure, even though he is a bit slow and is always getting trick by Dr. Robotnik/Eggman. I still love Sonic for speed and Tails for air. So I guess I'm stuck between those three.

7Force
24-06-2008, 19:40
I do wonder why they dropped the whole chilli dog thing...
They still use it in the Archie comic.

Kaito-kun
24-06-2008, 20:07
Wow, so much love for Omochao! XD Whyyyyy????
He's a chao and a robot! Could there be a better combination?

Rayne
24-06-2008, 21:40
He's a chao and a robot! Could there be a better combination?

Chao + Cake Icing = Best Birthday Ever

That's the best combination :D Mecha Chao come a close second

SuperMatt723
24-06-2008, 22:12
To make this list more enjoyable, ill write down the Characters i HATE.:P
-Shadow the Hedgehog
-wave the swallow
-Sonic 06 Eggman
-Team Chaotix, the Sonic Heroes one
-Actually, all of the Babylon Rouges

Love Sonic, just Sonic. Tails, hes the second best Sonic Character. and i think this would be cooler as a Poll.

Dr Shaneman
24-06-2008, 22:24
To make this list more enjoyable, ill write down the Characters i HATE.:P
-Shadow the Hedgehog
-wave the swallow
-Sonic 06 Eggman
-Team Chaotix, the Sonic Heroes one
-Actually, all of the Babylon Rouges

Love Sonic, just Sonic. Tails, hes the second best Sonic Character. and i think this would be cooler as a Poll.
Don't know if they would all fit. I would add a poll if you want through but someone would have to send me a complete character list though so I don't miss anyone out.

Reknoc
24-06-2008, 22:34
I'm thinking no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_from_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_%28game s%29) to having a poll.

Dr Shaneman
24-06-2008, 22:37
I'm thinking no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_from_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_%28game s%29) to having a poll.
Umm...Ok, mods decision is final. No poll for health reasons :ohmy:.

Chaos The Hedgehog
24-06-2008, 23:56
personally, I've always been a bit of an Amy fanatic!:gottogo:

and Sonic...:guitar:

Tails too!:boring:

magemario344
25-06-2008, 00:06
I'd have to say I love Shadow the Hedgehog =D but Sonic and Shadow are both #1

Chaos The Hedgehog
25-06-2008, 00:12
id have to say i love shadow the hedgehog =D but sonic and shadow r both #1

Dang! I forgot about Shad! he pwns too!

Dr. Shaneman and Reknoc, you are SO lucky..you live in the UK so you can easily go to that sonic convention if you'ree fans!

Dr Shaneman
25-06-2008, 00:15
Dang! I forgot about Shad! he pwns too!

Dr. Shaneman and Reknoc, you are SO lucky..you live in the UK so you can easily go to that sonic convention if you'ree fans!
I would if I could but I won't be able to make it this year.

Rayne
25-06-2008, 00:58
Dang! I forgot about Shad! he pwns too!

Dr. Shaneman and Reknoc, you are SO lucky..you live in the UK so you can easily go to that sonic convention if you'ree fans!

...Sonic convention? :blink:

Dr Shaneman
25-06-2008, 01:02
...Sonic convention? :blink:
I think he means summer of Sonic.

Rayne
25-06-2008, 01:04
I think he means summer of Sonic.

..Summer of Sonic? XD

Sorry...the idea of the UK having a cool convention that the USA doesn't is a hard one to get to grips with..

Reknoc
25-06-2008, 01:06
..Summer of Sonic? XD

Sorry...the idea of the UK having a cool convention that the USA doesn't is a hard one to get to grips with..

Metal Gear?

But yea I wasn't aware that there was a Sonic con either.

Dr Shaneman
25-06-2008, 01:08
..Summer of Sonic? XD

Sorry...the idea of the UK having a cool convention that the USA doesn't is a hard one to get to grips with..
Well, the Sonic Stadium have that meet up thing don't they? Only thing I could think of.

Rayne
25-06-2008, 01:09
Metal Gear?

But yea I wasn't aware that there was a Sonic con either.

I'm not an expert on conventions!! T__T

Plus...they're all in london -___-" ne? or England at least? tis a helluva trip to attend a convention...still =] I'll have to have a look

Chaos The Hedgehog
25-06-2008, 19:46
yeah, I meant Summer of Sonic..makes me so mad I don't live in the UK or have money to fly out

I'm not an expert on conventions!! T__T

Plus...they're all in london -___-" ne? or England at least? tis a helluva trip to attend a convention...still =] I'll have to have a look

whoa! you have a vgcats icon for your gamertag! lol

Kaito-kun
25-06-2008, 19:53
yeah, I meant Summer of Sonic..makes me so mad I don't live in the UK or have money to fly out
This is the first time I've come across an American wanting to visit this side of the pond for something they don't have; normally it's the opposite way around... *Needs Mountain Dew*

Chaos The Hedgehog
25-06-2008, 20:15
This is the first time I've come across an American wanting to visit this side of the pond for something they don't have; normally it's the opposite way around... *Needs Mountain Dew*



Ironic ain't it? a couple of my fav. web comic authors live there too

DarkHedge
28-06-2008, 21:34
Personnally, from all the characters created so far, I will say Metal Sonic remains truly the best. We haven't seen him too much, he is one of the most popular villains. He is charismatic, is truly a nemesis for Sonic (Shadow was okay, but the following sucked, ie Silver, or Jet), not to mention Sonic CD is (battling with S3&K for the first place) among the best if not THE best Sonic game ever.

Felix
28-06-2008, 22:22
When I'm not moving the camera so I can look up Amy's skirt, I guess it would be eggman (Dr Robotnik). I love his original design in the classic sonic games, egg shapped with legs and a giant mustache. Suffice to say his old emblem thats emblazed on those wonderful 16bit airships would be a fine tattoo somewhere on my body, once I'd consumed a considerable amount of vodka to become "hardcore". Its a shame he talks now. It was so much better when his emotions were read through comedic, simple frames of him throwing a tantrum when you destroyed all those giant robots. Robotnik was simply a great, classic villain. Really wish they'd stop making new characters though, they're either excruciatingly annoying or child like emo stereotypes.

DarkHedge
28-06-2008, 22:45
When I'm not moving the camera so I can look up Amy's skirt...
X'D

Dr. Shaneman edit: Sorry but if you're going to post, add something a little more than just that.

LeeMan00
29-06-2008, 01:33
For me, you can take away everyone, but who do you need in the end, Sonic. Well, that's how I feel. He's fast, and the others have there own thing, but he's the original character.

Chaos The Hedgehog
29-06-2008, 03:08
When I'm not moving the camera so I can look up Amy's skirt


lolz, nice one

DarkHedge
30-06-2008, 14:08
Why am I reminding that some people frenetically tapped the pause button while playing Streets of Rage with Blaze, when performing an air attack ?...

Rayne
30-06-2008, 14:13
yeah, I meant Summer of Sonic..makes me so mad I don't live in the UK or have money to fly out



whoa! you have a vgcats icon for your gamertag! lol

:) indeed I do! You're a fan? =]

I've looked at the Sonic convention, and it doesn't look very exciting...not enough to justify a trip to london anyway ><

Chaos The Hedgehog
01-07-2008, 07:46
:) indeed I do! You're a fan? =]

I've looked at the Sonic convention, and it doesn't look very exciting...not enough to justify a trip to london anyway ><

Take a look at my quote, lol..I've read through the whole archive at least twice

but back on topic, this site is making me wanna bust out my Sonic Mega Collection and go through the games again lol, maybe play as my favorite yellow Foxboy:boring: first on Sonic 3 & Knux :P

Worcanna
01-07-2008, 22:34
Simple act. Give me my Knuckles, let me hug him O_O

*fangirl moment, gets a fork to hold people at bay*

Tails_1986
01-07-2008, 22:36
Simple act. Give me my Knuckles, let me hug him O_O

*fangirl moment, gets a fork to hold people at bay*

At the risk of being stabbed by a fork ... do you own a Knuckles plushie?:biggrin:

willz
01-07-2008, 23:28
Simple act. Give me my Knuckles, let me hug him O_O

*fangirl moment, gets a fork to hold people at bay*

Ah, I see you're going for the Hug-ability angle on this one! Interesting!:P
Also the Idea of getting prodded with a fork greatly helps to reinforce your point!

foreversonic
01-07-2008, 23:47
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3070/image00009vq2.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image00009vq2.jpg)

Just in case.

Agente Rolf
02-07-2008, 00:46
[IMAGE]
Just in case.
Pretty cool!

Do you have all the characters?

foreversonic
02-07-2008, 01:13
Do you have all the characters?

I'm just waiting for Dr. Eggman / Robotnik from that set.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7952/pict2287je7.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict2287je7.jpg)

takahashi_ryosuke
09-07-2008, 07:05
Yeah, I like Tails...

I like to download the picture... Tails picture...

...like this...

I like tails...

If I play sonic games, I want to using Tails... (no matter what...!)

I like to download the Tails picture...

Espio.VX
09-07-2008, 07:51
1. Espio because I like the Chaotix characters and he is the coolest of them.
2. Mighty because he is so much fun to play as in the Knuckles Chaotix game.
3. Charmy because he is funny (in Sonic X) and because he can fly.

FSRacer_Sonic
09-07-2008, 14:46
Sonic da Hedgehog FTW!! :)

elheridelchacon98
19-07-2008, 04:06
Shadow the Hedgehog

Truesonic
19-07-2008, 06:59
Sonic the hedgehog is the best.

foreversonic
20-07-2008, 01:34
Sonic da Hedgehog FTW!! :)

Shadow the Hedgehog

Sonic the hedgehog is the best.


Why are these your favourite characters?

Please put a little more thought into posts, in topics like these.

TristEndo
02-08-2008, 00:00
SONIC THE HEDGEHOG (w/ tails). Sonic should be unstopable in theory anybody at that speed is untouchable, plus his quills. Also, I have a question I have had for a while and have been to lazy to research so I thought here would be a good place to ask. How is Shadow the original Sonic? I don't get it. Do they explain it in any games? Somebody please explain. I haven't played a Sonic title since Sonic Adventure 2 and a little Sonic Battle.

Rayne
02-08-2008, 00:09
SONIC THE HEDGEHOG (w/ tails). Sonic should be unstopable in theory anybody at that speed is untouchable, plus his quiols. Also I have a question i have had for a while and have been to lazy to research so I thought here would be a good place to ask. How is shadow the original Sonic? I dont get it do they explain it in any games? somebody please explain i havnt playd a sonic title seince sonic adventure 2 and a little sonic battle.

I don't think Shadow is the original Sonic, that hasn't been mentioned in any of the games or comics ( I can't speak for sonic X though)

He was made by Gerald Robotnik to fight against Black doom & the Black arms in the comics, in Adventure 2 he was made to be the ultimate lifeform and programmed to carry out Gerald's world destroying plan.

In heroes he was an android...but the original shadow was frozen, cryo, wahtever for 50 years...so I suppose Sonic could somehow have been cloned from him =3 that would be interesting, but I don't remember hearing about it

Sherlock
05-08-2008, 16:20
My all time favourite Sonic character would definitely be Shadow.
First of all, many people don't like him because he's oh-so-emo. Secondly, he just looks plain cool with his rep stripes, eyes and his shoes - added to this that black and red are my favourite colours. Third, he has a sexy voice. Fourth, most of his theme songs rock. And, last reason: Look at his outfit in Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. Godly.
Shadow's character development may be a bit strange, but I like just the appearance and attitude of Shadow so much. I really adore him.

Right behind Shadow would probably be Tails. I already liked him since Sonic the Hedgehog 2. He became a really adorable character, and his attitude has not changed throughout the games. Also, inventions and knowledge ftw.

Distant third is Knuckles. The red echidna has some nice attitude and I love his quirk to always want to protect the Chaos Emeralds respectively the Master Emerald. He also has cool gloves, a sexy voice as well, and has at least a weakness: His protection fanatism lead him into getting fooled by Eggman - who actually shared the fourth place with Sonic, I'd say.

Mindset
05-08-2008, 17:22
Mostly Sonic because he is the main hero of the series. My favorite villain is Metal Sonic, he's like the evil twin of Sonic.

Rayne
05-08-2008, 17:29
Mostly Sonic because he is the main hero of the series. My favorite villain is Metal Sonic, he's like the evil twin of Sonic.

The evil twin that didn't have black fur, a shedload of angst and a stupid hastily put together past that is :P

Metal sonic is pretty badass :) cept in heroes...that was a little more than strange o_O"

Mindset
05-08-2008, 17:36
I think Metal Sonic is cooler than Shadow, LOL!

Rayne
05-08-2008, 17:40
I think Metal Sonic is cooler than Shadow, LOL!

Especially on....uh oh...i've forgot...Sonic CD maybe? The game with Sonic boom as the title track, it had the awesome movie :P

Tails_1986
05-08-2008, 20:23
The evil twin that didn't have black fur, a shedload of angst and a stupid hastily put together past that is :P

Metal sonic is pretty badass :) cept in heroes...that was a little more than strange o_O"

Let's just think in Heroes he was a half-baked robot made while Eggman was between world conquering projects. So ... no connection to it's early versions.:P

Rayne
05-08-2008, 20:29
Let's just think in Heroes he was a half-baked robot made while Eggman was between world conquering projects. So ... no connection to it's early versions.:P

Yeaaah...lets go with that XD :)

Sherlock
05-08-2008, 21:49
Oh yeah, Metal Sonic was cool... but of all evil copycharacters (and I don't count Shadow as twin to Sonic, neither as really evil. He's just confused.) Tails Doll definitely is the most awesome one.

Rayne
05-08-2008, 23:17
Oh yeah, Metal Sonic was cool... but of all evil copycharacters (and I don't count Shadow as twin to Sonic, neither as really evil. He's just confused.) Tails Doll definitely is the most awesome one.

:O Tails Doll?

Dr Shaneman
05-08-2008, 23:46
:O Tails Doll?
You've never heard of?

Tails_1986
05-08-2008, 23:47
:O Tails Doll?

The stuffed up plushie that appeared on Sonic R. That character is an easy target for webcomics to make fun of.:P

Dr Shaneman
05-08-2008, 23:48
The stuffed up plushie that appeared on Sonic R. That character is an easy target for webcomics to make fun of.:P
Like the curse, "beware the Tails Doll".

Dreamcarnage
12-08-2008, 21:43
Metal Sonic
He is such a cool bad guy in Sonic CD and Heroes, and I love his powers:nono:

Black_Jack
12-08-2008, 22:22
I gotta say Knuckles...or maybe Fang because I'm best with him on Sonic The Fighters. Hm, I dunno, either one :cool:

Sherlock
13-08-2008, 00:21
I will have to clean up a bit here... Heh.

Okay, so practically the characters I named are still there, but actually, two characters have snuck their way into the Top 3, and three other characters I could consider that I like them very muchly.
Of course Sonic is somewhere in between there... I just couldn't put him to a place. Though he ain't be Top 3.

Okay, so... Place 2 is taken by the main villain of the series - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. Why I like that fat guy? Hell, he's friggin awesome. He makes a very fitting antagonist. He has been there since the beginning and still hasn't given up trying to defeat Sonic and reach his goal of world domination. Some people say that there will be other villains replacing him after some time... I hope it won't happen like this. And I doubt it. Although he was playable on the "good side" in some cases, it only happened if he hadn't any much other choice than teaming up with Sonic against a bigger threat he can't defeat on his own... I doubt getting killed or enslaved and therefore foiling his plans after all would be liked by Eggman, either.

Right after Eggman now, and right before Tails, there now is another part of Team Dark next to Shadow - Rouge the Bat. Rouge is... totally awesome. Not only her really cool looks, but mainly the fact that she kicks some ass. And that a lot. Her attitude and her behaviour, her personality. Everything is perfectly made out. She's just cool. And I like RPing as her. Flirty ftw~

Then, just behind Knux there has another powerhouse found his place. Vector the Crocodile. Out of the Chaotix he's my absolute favourite. He's normally overshadowed by Espio, since that one is a Ninja and has that grumpy personality which is very liked. Vector, though, is an awesome character. He's the oldest out of the whole series' crew, except for Eggman, and - not counting his cash-loving which he got in Heroes - he has a pretty realistic personality. He loves music, food and having fun, and he has a good heart. Not to mention he plainly looks awesome.

And, as a last seventh rank (not counting Sonic), surprisingly one character built his way up very fast. Believe it or not, it is Silver the Hedgehog. Yes. That character I considered so long being absolutely unnecessary and just another general supporting cast, and even with gay looks. Oh wow. How wrong I was. He may have some gay feeling, which is good, though (x3), but he isn't crappy and no cheap copy of Sonic or anything else. He actually has very much potential to become a highly interesting character. His psychic powers are something really new, his looks are, after considering, pretty cool, and his personality may not be highly interesting, but it's rather flashed out. His backstory has some very good potential - I would like to see that future he came from, especially considering that there everyone seems to have these psychic powers Silver has. I came to like Silver. And his theme song is just sweet. <3 It includes the word "furball"! Heehee~

Dr Shaneman
13-08-2008, 18:57
That's pretty clean there Skunk. No complaints XD.

Schezo
13-08-2008, 20:04
I've allways been a Knuckles fan, since I'm a bit of a sucker for anti-heroes. He lost some of his coolnes when he became a rapper, though.

Another two I really like is Mighty and Blaze. Mighty's allways been my obvious choice of character in Chaotix. I guess I really liked the red ones back in the day. You can imagine how pissed I was when he didn't appeared in Sonic Heroes.

Only really got to know Blaze through Rush Adventure, but man was that a great game. Her style of gameplay, personality and design won me over quick. I'm a huge cat-lover too, so everything about her is so loveable.

7Force
13-08-2008, 20:36
I've allways been a Knuckles fan, since I'm a bit of a sucker for anti-heroes. He lost some of his coolnes when he became a rapper, though.

Another two I really like is Mighty and Blaze. Mighty's allways been my obvious choice of character in Chaotix. I guess I really liked the red ones back in the day. You can imagine how pissed I was when he didn't appeared in Sonic Heroes.

Only really got to know Blaze through Rush Adventure, but man was that a great game. Her style of gameplay, personality and design won me over quick. I'm a huge cat-lover too, so everything about her is so loveable.

I'll agree with you on Blaze I think she is a great character, her design and her personality make her a really mature addition to the Sonic cannon.

Knuckles is great as well but after the Sonic Adventure games SEGA sort of messed him up by making him a little dumb. Also I thought Knuckles rapping was ok, Pumpkin Hill was a good tune.
:rockin::guitar:

Sherlock
13-08-2008, 22:55
That's pretty clean there Skunk. No complaints XD.

Mwehehe. Why, thank you. So, to put it short:
1. Shadow
2. Eggman
3. Rouge
4. Tails
5. Knuckles
6. Vector
7. Silver
Somewhere in between 4 and 7. Sonic

Sonic's position is actually pending, because some days I <3 him totally and want him in an Amy-lish manner, and some days he's just annoying as hell... depends totally on my mood. :x

Wolfdemon59
14-08-2008, 06:22
I already left a message saying my favorites are Sonic, Knuckles and Robotnik.
Shadow is one of my least favorite (He was great in SA2 but I hate all the other games after with him. His character died in me ever since Sonic Heroes.)
But I bring this up is because I need to ask a question thats been bothering me.

In Adventure 2, Shadow died? In Heroes apparently he's a clone (or android w/e?) but people said one of the endings in "Shadow the Hedgehog" said that one of Robotnik robots saves him when he was falling back to their world in SA2, and Robotnik made clones of him after etcetcetc So he's the actual Shadow, he just lost his memory?

I only got one of Shadow's ending in his game cause I hated the game itself XD but I have seen all the endings and none mentioned him being saved. So I'm guessing it's untrue or its in an earlier cutscene.
My question is whats the story behind him coming back?

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 08:31
Shadow is your least favourite? Man. :(

Okay, so SPOILER.

Shadow fell from the space station in Sonic Adventure 2. I think it wasn't mentioned in Shadow the Hedgehog, but in Sonic Heroes. Eggman captured the falling Shadow and started to clone him. I don't know if these are robots built after him or actual clones. Anyway. It's first thought that Shadow is such a clone, since in the basement Rouge found him there are several others, but that one is the real deal. He has lost his memory, and during Sonic Heroes (which takes place in between SA2 and Shadow, I think) and Shadow the Hedgehog the good black blur regains these memories.
The only thing I would've done in SEGA's place was to let Shadow rest a couple years before reviving him - that just was too fast.

Schezo
14-08-2008, 13:13
Shadow is your least favourite? Man. :(
Umm... He aint alone. Shadow is pretty hated by many, mostly beacuse he tends to be kind of emo and that Shadow the Hedgehog was a really bad game.

I thought he was pretty cool in SA2, but now I hate his guts. Only character I hate more is probably Silver. Seriously, I think Big is a much cooler character than both of them. In a dorky, retarded way.

All Shadow and Silver ever did was stealing the spotlight from Sonic.

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 13:22
Umm... He aint alone. Shadow is pretty hated by many, mostly beacuse he tends to be kind of emo and that Shadow the Hedgehog was a really bad game.

Emo? Gah. I hate when people call him emo. He isn't effing emo. Put yourself in his situation. You're frozen somewhere for 50 years and suddenly you get awakened. You have no idea about your past, and you don't know why you're existing. Then let's see who's emo.
Seriously, he's not emo. He may be a bit angsty, but all he actually is, is confused and desperate.

Shadow is a good addition to the series. Silver can be, if his potential is used. And both don't steal Sonic's spotlight, since Sonic still is the best known and always will be, no matter what.

Edit:
Also, he, among with practically all new characters since the 3D generation, are hated by the "Classic Sonic" purists, who're all like "Sonic was the best in his 16 Bit incarnations, since then he sucks balls". And that's not true. Sure, lot of the games lack a bit of quality, and could've been turned out better, but I still think they aren't bad and there's no reason to hate them. Even Sonic Heroes has some good ideas, and that's imho the worst game from the newer generation.

Schezo
14-08-2008, 14:34
Emo? Gah. I hate when people call him emo. He isn't effing emo. Put yourself in his situation. You're frozen somewhere for 50 years and suddenly you get awakened. You have no idea about your past, and you don't know why you're existing. Then let's see who's emo.
Seriously, he's not emo. He may be a bit angsty, but all he actually is, is confused and desperate.

Fair enough, I'd be damn confused if I awoke from a 50 year slumber. But I sure wouldn't try to destroy the world, because I have a faint memory that my only friend MIGHT have wanted me to avenge her death all those years ago.

Shadow is a good addition to the series. Silver can be, if his potential is used. And both don't steal Sonic's spotlight, since Sonic still is the best known and always will be, no matter what.

They ARE stealing the spotlight. The entire SA2 is basically about Shadow. You don't get to play as him alot (which is sad because the speed levels were the only gameplay I really liked in SA2) but the story revolves all around him, his plot for revenge on every single person on our planet.

In sonic 360/PS3 the gameplay is divided into 3 parts, where you only get to play as sonic in one of them. in the other parts you are forced to play as Silver and Shadow, which both had even worse gameplay segments than Sonic.

Silvers back-story can be used for interesting things, but he just seems so stupid. He completely trust Mephiles the first time he meets him, despite his menacing looks, dark voice and the fact that he doesn't have a mouth. He gets no explaination of how, but that Sonic will cause the destruction of his world. Not the brightest of the bunch.

Smeep
14-08-2008, 14:38
I'm on of the Shadow haters too, sorry man :S But, my reasoning is different. I played Sonic the Hedgehog since it was released. My favourite Sonic games is Sonic 2. I feel that they got away with Knuckles, just about. My opinion, is that Sonic doesn't need all these extra Characters. Sonic 3 was the turning point in the series. They started to introduce more and more Characters, for which I don't have any respect because it was the starting point of Sega going completely loopy when it came to Sonic.

All sonic needs in my opinion, are the Chaos Emeralds, Rings, Fast levels, 2 Dimensions, Sonic, Tails and Dr. Robotnik. Therefore, any other Characters to me, just seem weak in comparison. Being a true Sonic fanboy, my fav' is Sonic himself.

Please, don't take this message as any kind of insult or toe-stepper, I do not intend it to be that way! :D

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 15:30
@Schezo:
Well, Silver is YOUNG and inexperienced after all. You can't expect a 14 year old chip to get everything straight, and not every kid is as smart as Tails. Though Silver is indeed a douchebag at times.

All sonic needs in my opinion, are the Chaos Emeralds, Rings, Fast levels, 2 Dimensions, Sonic, Tails and Dr. Robotnik. Therefore, any other Characters to me, just seem weak in comparison. Being a true Sonic fanboy, my fav' is Sonic himself.

Please, don't take this message as any kind of insult or toe-stepper, I do not intend it to be that way! :D

First of all, I'm not a man. If you would take a look at the gender statement right under my avatar, you'll see a pink female symbol. -.-

Secondly: You exactly are one of these 16-Bit-Purists I was talking of earlier. =/ You just rant about how Sonic sucks nowadays and that you hate what they made of him. But seriously, noone presses you to play new Sonic games. Just sit in your corner and play your Sonic 2, then you are happy, and we are too, because then we don't have to bother with your unnecessary ranting.

I can respect if you dislike a character because of his/her personality or anything, but if you're just about seniority or the fact that SEGA screwed up with them in one or two games, I think your reasoning is ridiculous. I mean, I'm very distrusting about new additions to the crew all around, but when I get to know that character, I normally grow to like them.
I like characters because of their personality and to a little part, looks, skills and the surroundings like Theme Songs. I don't care about how crappy the game involving them is, I'm about story and character, not about technical stuff.

But w/e, I don't feel like my opinion is that supported here.

Smeep
14-08-2008, 15:45
Ooh, sorry about that, but then again, I call females dude/man/mate all the time, so don't take it too harshly :) And yup, I'm a purist, and I'm proud of it. You are indeed correct, no one forces me to play the new games, yet I still do in the hopes that they will one day release a sonic game that's actually good. As far as 3D goes, Sonic Adventure was my favourite one, though I think that was just due to the free-roaming as sonic blasting away at a fairly high speed. Some of Sonic's levels were ok too. SA2 wasn't my bag, It just seemed like everything was a tack-on. The same as all the new characters feel to me.

I guess it's fair that you like the Characters, even if you don't like the games - but I just can't stomach watching Sega ruining a great formula. I'm a firm beleiver in "if it aint broke don't fix it!".

Yuji Naka himself has been quoted that sonic can only be played truly in 2D. Like I said at the end of my post, I didn't want to step on any toes, but you'll note that I never called any of 'your reasoning rediculous', so I'd appreciate it if you didn't do that to me.

It's not that sega screwed up with them in one or two games, it's the fact that in my opinion, the last of the great sonic games died in Sonic 3 - (Or Sonic and Knuckles) because they deviated from the formula. Hey presto, the release Sonic Rush, and I loved it! It was fast and 2D, the way it should be done.

In my opinion, Mario made a much better transition to 3D, though I still think the best Mario release is New Super Mario Bros on the DS (excluding spin offs, like Mario Kart etc).

My problem with Shadow [as a character] is that like everything else now, he's just another sterotypical addition to the series. He doesn't bring anything worth having, in my opinion. He's just another character with a dark history who isn't (at first) sure if he's a good guy or a bad guy. Knuckles was introduced in a simular way, with Dr. Robotnik convincing him that Sonic was evil. You get the same thing in every story ever.

I just don't think he (and knuckles) were needed - Sonic was always about the fun, the speed and the good times. It didn't matter if there was a story, all you knew back then is that there was a bad guy that had to be stopped. True, that won't really stand up in todays modern gaming community, because like it or lump it, mindless games these days end up just that - mindless.

But then you get Sonic the Hedgehog on 360, where they put too much story in and not enough fun. Sonic rush had it just right. There was a little bit of story between levels, but the best part of the game was running at the speed of light smashing through badniks and enjoying what sonic was about.

True, Sonic is my favourite Character because I grew up with him, playing his games, looking forward to his next release. But that's only the same as your best friend being that person because you have a history with them, and not some theoretically better person who you only just met. If you catch my drift?

Lol, I'm such a nerd xD

Wolfdemon59
14-08-2008, 16:17
Shadow is your least favourite? Man. :(


Thanks for the info =)
The reason why i hate shadow is because they changed his personality to much. I liked him in SA2 but thats its. All the other games he just....sucks (to me)He acts completely different from SA2, hes says he got over the past even though in every game he brings them up...etc And if everyone thought he died its kinda weird that they werent shocked to see him in the next adventure. I would have expected to see sonic going "WTF, Didnt you die :O" or something

Dr Shaneman
14-08-2008, 16:27
I'll agree with Skunk 100% because I think Shadow's awesome. His colour and design are good, he's got speed shoes (which I want XD) and I actually liked his game :P. Skunk, we're alone I'm afraid.

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 16:55
Thanks for the info =)
The reason why i hate shadow is because they changed his personality to much. I liked him in SA2 but thats its. All the other games he just....sucks (to me)He acts completely different from SA2, hes says he got over the past even though in every game he brings them up...etc

Uhm... no? He still is grumpy and cold, and he doesn't take shit from everyone. Shadow was out for destroying the whole world, but was taught that this wasn't his purpose. That he got to know his past and the meaning of his life as well the fact he got to know what friendship (Rouge), teamwork and that jazz means, made him "softer" and more "human", but he still is the original Shadow personality-wise.

And if everyone thought he died its kinda weird that they werent shocked to see him in the next adventure. I would have expected to see sonic going "WTF, Didnt you die :O" or something

Yeah, I agree with you on that one. I would've left the people in believing he was dead for a couple years and then would've revived him, so it would've been more surprising and anticipated.

@Smeep:
But I find it ridiculous to say that seniority is all what a character needs to be good, otherwise they suck. Especially if you say you're a proud purist, I think that stating how you hate everything since game X (in your case Sonic 2), why are you argueing after all, anyway? It has no sense trying to give you any arguments, since you only enter a discussion to state how you like the old games and hate the new ones and then leave again. I mean, honestly, that's not how I would like to have a discussion. I enter a discussion so I can see everyone else's opinions on the specific topic, bring arguments, hear them, and turn out to be wiser, and maybe with a changed opinion. Being close-minded about a topic and entering a discussion is not good. Seriously. What else did you state other than "All new games are crap, so are all characters who were introduced since then"? And what about the old characters? Sonic, Tails and Eggman got a lot of personality since Sonic 2.

@Shaneman:
Which is a shame. Shadow finally brought a bit more seriousness into all these fun-loving characters.

Smeep
14-08-2008, 17:08
@Smeep:
But I find it ridiculous to say that seniority is all what a character needs to be good, otherwise they suck. Especially if you say you're a proud purist, I think that stating how you hate everything since game X (in your case Sonic 2), why are you argueing after all, anyway? It has no sense trying to give you any arguments, since you only enter a discussion to state how you like the old games and hate the new ones and then leave again. I mean, honestly, that's not how I would like to have a discussion. I enter a discussion so I can see everyone else's opinions on the specific topic, bring arguments, hear them, and turn out to be wiser, and maybe with a changed opinion. Being close-minded about a topic and entering a discussion is not good. Seriously. What else did you state other than "All new games are crap, so are all characters who were introduced since then"? And what about the old characters? Sonic, Tails and Eggman got a lot of personality since Sonic 2.

I'm not really arguing, I'm just stating my opinion. I'm not trying to convince you to believe anything other than what you already believe. The thing is, I played all the new ones. I'm not being prejudice. I've tried every single game along the way, and none of them scratched the sonic itch. I'm talking 17 years of playing Sonic the Hedgehog here (1991, right?). I'm talking from experience, my experience. Not yours, not anyone else's! So please don't take this that I'm arguing with you or trying to change your view. Because put simply, I'm not! :)

What I did state is about how other franchises made a better transition, about how the original Sonic front man agrees that things should be done in 2D, about how in my opinion the original formula worked so much better. I also stated that I enjoyed SA1, for certain elements of it.

The problem with the personality that Sonic gained is it was very 'teen-American'. Kinda like when you have a Final Fantasy game, covered in American voice overs. Sure, it helps the series, but the voices were always better when imagined in your head. (For example, the difference between reading a book and watching a film). Sonic turned in to a whiney little punk. In my view, sonic should have been a more strong silent type, who didn't take crap from anyone - but even then, that just churns out yet another stereo type. Tails turned out probably the most like I imagined, because he always was 'the kid', but even then, he seems to be a numbskul, which I'm not fond of. The most reasonable outcome is Dr. Robotnik, because they couldn't really do him any other way.

To try and, (once again) re-iterate what I mean about Sonic being my favourite character: You could equate it to films. The Itilian job, The Longest Yard and several other films. The remakes are always a nice ode, but the original is the one with meaning.

That's my two pence anyway :)

And at that, I guess I've said pretty much all I can say on it to. Unless there's anything else you want me to answer, because I can already see that we'll both fall in to circular reasoning.

7Force
14-08-2008, 20:47
I'll agree with Skunk 100% because I think Shadow's awesome. His colour and design are good, he's got speed shoes (which I want XD) and I actually liked his game :P. Skunk, we're alone I'm afraid.

Add me to the list since I like Shadow to. Heck i even liked his game but it could have been so much better if more time was spent on it.

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 21:33
Add me to the list since I like Shadow to. Heck i even liked his game but it could have been so much better if more time was spent on it.

Well, Shadow the Hedgehog's not the only game which has this problem.

Rayne
14-08-2008, 22:03
Anyone with sense would have to admit that Shadow is a broken character.

SA2B built up an interesting backstory, then killed him off. Pretty well done, ever since then, his story has been twisted, so what, he's a robot clone in Heroes, then another clone in Shadow, then what? And in Sonic 06 he's seemingly back to normal? Its nuts.

He's cool, but I wish they'd just leave him alone.

Silver was stupid, I hate his hair style, psychic powers are an annoying add on, and it was just another character to add to the ever-growing list of sonic characters.

Recent characters that grew on me were Manic from Sonic Underground and Cream the Rabbit x3

Sherlock
14-08-2008, 22:54
Anyone with sense would have to admit that Shadow is a broken character.

So you say I'm a senseless idiot? Thank you very much.

SA2B built up an interesting backstory, then killed him off. Pretty well done, ever since then, his story has been twisted, so what, he's a robot clone in Heroes, then another clone in Shadow, then what? And in Sonic 06 he's seemingly back to normal? Its nuts.Read my posting about Shadow's backstory, please. If you can't find it, I willingly will quote it for you.

He's cool, but I wish they'd just leave him alone.They should have, yes. But now he's part of the crew and I actually like that he's around.

Silver was stupid, I hate his hair style, psychic powers are an annoying add on, and it was just another character to add to the ever-growing list of sonic characters.What about telekinesis is annoying? I think it rocks. And his hairstyle is strange, I agree... but still. <_<
As I said, Silver is, together with Blaze, one of the few characters to actually have a lot of potential to them. Though Sega has yet to use this potential.

Recent characters that grew on me were Manic from Sonic Underground and Cream the Rabbit x3

Manic? MANIC?! Are you nuts? Manic is probably the most annoying brat I've ever seen. I even like Amy and Big more than Manic. Seriously. Cream is okay, but she's just as "necessary" as your oh-so-disliked Silver. She was even supposed to be Sonic X-only, but was put in Sonic Advance 2 rather last minute.

Rayne
14-08-2008, 23:08
So you say I'm a senseless idiot? Thank you very much.

Hehe, sorry, that wasn't aimed at you at all :P its at the several shadow fanboys I have to live with every day, you can quote in chunks, a skill I envy

Read my posting about Shadow's backstory, please. If you can't find it, I willingly will quote it for you.

I'll have a look =3 from playing through the games, one minute he's dead, the next he's a robot, then an alien, gar..

They should have, yes. But now he's part of the crew and I actually like that he's around.

I like him, but I'd like them to start from scratch, pretend he didn't exist before or something XD

What about telekinesis is annoying? I think it rocks. And his hairstyle is strange, I agree... but still. <_<
As I said, Silver is, together with Blaze, one of the few characters to actually have a lot of potential to them. Though Sega has yet to use this potential.

I played through Sonic 06 and found his sections to be the most annoying, his fights with Iblis were pretty cool, the problems came down to the fact that Sonic is all about speed, he never picked up speed because of the powers, but the levels weren't designed for platforming, it didn't gel as well as it should have.

I haven't played Rivals yet, so I don't know how he plays in that =]

Manic? MANIC?! Are you nuts? Manic is probably the most annoying brat I've ever seen. I even like Amy and Big more than Manic. Seriously. Cream is okay, but she's just as "necessary" as your oh-so-disliked Silver. She was even supposed to be Sonic X-only, but was put in Sonic Advance 2 rather last minute.

MANIC IS COOL XD He was hardcore man! If I can stand to sit and watch it, manic is cool ^__^" better than pinky, or chillie dog Sonic.

As a character Cream doesn't offer anything really, but she is so CUTE >< its unbearable, and lil cheese kicks butt. I hated Sonic X though >_> so anything I say isn't based on that horrid excuse of a cartoon, is it just me or did they all look fat? XD


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foreversonic
15-08-2008, 01:41
I think I'm going to step in around about here...

Can we discuss more about the characters - likes and dislikes - instead of the personal playground bullying?

We all have our likes and dislikes, but don't make this personal.

Any more "flaming", if that's the word, (I would have called it, "ganging up on someone"), and I'll consider issuing warnings.

Sherlock
15-08-2008, 10:29
Well, thanks for the aid, foreversonic, but I don't care if someone dislikes Shadow (or any other character, for that matter), if the reason is not "His game(s) sucks." or "He's a new character."
If the reason is "I hate his attitude." or even "I think his curved quills make him look ridiculous." than I can accept that more than technical reasons like these above - since they have nothing to do with the character itself, but with the games.

Schezo
15-08-2008, 10:55
Though I'm not a fan of Shadows personality or gameplay, I must admit that he looks mighty cool. Red and black is a nice color combination (Hey, Mighty also have them) and it sure makes him look like a not-so-nice guy.

By the way, am i the only one who think Amy (and alot of others, for that matter, but especially Amy) must be color-blind and extremely near-sighted? I can see a resemblance in the face between Sonic, Shadow and Silver, but apart from that (and especially viewed from the back) they don't look anything like each other.
But Amy sees them from the back and attacks them with a hug, beliving they're Sonic. It's a bit wierd.

And the military capturing Sonic, beliving he's Shadow. That's like capturing an asian guy while looking for a black guy (or the other way around, if you prefer that)

Rayne
15-08-2008, 11:25
I liked Shadow in SA2B =3 he was badass, and that was the first Sonic game I'd played since Sonic 3 :blush: Getting to fight the military was pretty fun

I think what bugged me most is having Shadow killed off, then revived...that's really annoying, he died a hero T___T Though I suppose any excuse to play as him is fair enough >_>"

Not to go off topic, but what do you think has been the best big boss battle so far? =/ I'm stuck between SA2B & Heroes

By the way, am i the only one who think Amy (and alot of others, for that matter, but especially Amy) must be color-blind and extremely near-sighted? I can see a resemblance in the face between Sonic, Shadow and Silver, but apart from that (and especially viewed from the back) they don't look anything like each other.
But Amy sees them from the back and attacks them with a hug, beliving they're Sonic. It's a bit wierd.

And the military capturing Sonic, beliving he's Shadow. That's like capturing an asian guy while looking for a black guy (or the other way around, if you prefer that)

XD that made me giggle, very good point....maybe, she figured Sonic had died his hair...and used gel....or...something? o_O

Sherlock
15-08-2008, 13:04
By the way, am i the only one who think Amy (and alot of others, for that matter, but especially Amy) must be color-blind and extremely near-sighted? I can see a resemblance in the face between Sonic, Shadow and Silver, but apart from that (and especially viewed from the back) they don't look anything like each other.
But Amy sees them from the back and attacks them with a hug, beliving they're Sonic. It's a bit wierd.

And the military capturing Sonic, beliving he's Shadow. That's like capturing an asian guy while looking for a black guy (or the other way around, if you prefer that)

Amy is not colour-blind, but most likely loveblind. If something resembles Sonic, it has to be him. :P

As for the military.. I guess they didn't really know what Shadow looked like, so they took Sonic.

Worcanna
16-08-2008, 08:52
Shadow suffers from something that happens a lot. It happened in the new Mummy film and it happened in Indy 4. It added something not original. It changed the idea to fit this new star and exspected people not to notice. With Mummy, they changed Evelin, everyone noticed, they made a joke and it didn't work. Indy 4 had the new kid, id didn't work becouse it was just not fair to put him in the light in a indy film.

Shadow had to share the light with Sonic, in a game called SONIC it dosn't work. Its not that he's bad, its just that people don't like that. Tails is the sidekick, knuckles was the anti-hero and robotnik the villian. Lines were drawn and then suddenly Sonic adventure changed it and SOnic Adventure 2 threw that at the wall and set it on fire, you know?>

Sherlock
16-08-2008, 09:12
Interesting point of view. You may have a point there.

But you know, Sonic first was played by kids, so there was the cool blue hedgehog and the evil man who wants to take over the world and traps fluffy animals in robots. In Sonic 2 you first see Sonic's best friend and sidekick, in Sonic 3 his rival.
You know, Knux is no more an Anti-Hero, he's more a little of a grumpy friend of Sonic and a bit of a rival, but not an Anti-Hero.
So we had this 4 characters back in the Genesis days, and we all were kids back then.
Now, that we have grown older, working with these simple schemes doesn't work anymore, so they gave the characters personality threats.
Years later they made Sonic Adventure 2. The kids from the past were now teens, so they added Shadow and Rouge to give the games a more mature touch. And both fulfill their purpose rather well among the fun-loving cast from back then.
And you can't complain about Sonic games introducing new characters every game, because Mario games do that, too.
Think of: Wario, Yoshi, Waluigi, Petey Piranha, Bowser Jr., Cackletta, Princess Shroob, Rosalina, etc.

You see, there have been plenty additions to the original cast of 4 (Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser). But noone complains about them, even though characters like Rosalina also add seriousness into the game she appears in.

Reknoc
16-08-2008, 10:07
Interesting point of view. You may have a point there.

But you know, Sonic first was played by kids, so there was the cool blue hedgehog and the evil man who wants to take over the world and traps fluffy animals in robots. In Sonic 2 you first see Sonic's best friend and sidekick, in Sonic 3 his rival.
You know, Knux is no more an Anti-Hero, he's more a little of a grumpy friend of Sonic and a bit of a rival, but not an Anti-Hero.
So we had this 4 characters back in the Genesis days, and we all were kids back then.
Now, that we have grown older, working with these simple schemes doesn't work anymore, so they gave the characters personality threats.
Years later they made Sonic Adventure 2. The kids from the past were now teens, so they added Shadow and Rouge to give the games a more mature touch. And both fulfill their purpose rather well among the fun-loving cast from back then.
And you can't complain about Sonic games introducing new characters every game, because Mario games do that, too.
Think of: Wario, Yoshi, Waluigi, Petey Piranha, Bowser Jr., Cackletta, Princess Shroob, Rosalina, etc.

You see, there have been plenty additions to the original cast of 4 (Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser). But noone complains about them, even though characters like Rosalina also add seriousness into the game she appears in.

Well no, this to me seems like you're saying "I'm older now and demand a more mature Sonic, forget anyone who's a kid today they don't get to have what we had".

About the Mario games, Okay I see what you're getting at I kind of agree. But then I remember apart from spin off games (Cackletta being in one of those spin off games) like most of these characters are thrown away and rarely or never actually appear in a proper sequal, with the exception of Bowser Jr. for better or worse, I dunno can't say I really care for him.

On Cackletta, well duh! They made an RPG! The game needs lots of characters otherwise it would be boring as hell, Sonic isn't an RPG yet has enough characters for one for it to actually add very few new characters.

And another thing, Mario characters never really stop being... kid-friendly, nobody broods about, unless they do it on Paper Mario and then it's probably meant as a joke.

Overall though, I don't find these new characters to be too bad at all, mostly because the last 3D Sonic game I played was Sonic Heroes and didn't like it enough to care about it's story. As far as I'm concerned Shadow died on SA2 and he was just a cameo on Heroes.

Dr Shaneman
16-08-2008, 16:56
Alright guys if you really want to keep this Shadow thing up then please open a thread for him as this is turning into a Shadow only one which it isn't.

p_nut_uk
16-08-2008, 19:55
The difference between Nintendo characters and Sonic ones is that Nintendo don't ram it down your throat, "look here's big, you must be him!". Knuckles is still my favourite.

Schezo
17-08-2008, 11:37
I think Rouge is a pretty cool character. Greedy thieves are allways cool. But sometimes it feels like Sonic Team added her just to give the series some sex appeal. Was playing through some levels in SA2 recently and couldn't stop noticing that her boobs bounce disturbingly much at some times. (especially at the beginning of every 2P match if P1 plays dark side).

Anyone else that have noticed this?

Reknoc
17-08-2008, 11:45
I think Rouge is a pretty cool character. Greedy thieves are allways cool. But sometimes it feels like Sonic Team added her just to give the series some sex appeal. Was playing through some levels in SA2 recently and couldn't stop noticing that her boobs bounce disturbingly much at some times. (especially at the beginning of every 2P match if P1 plays dark side).

Anyone else that have noticed this?

Yes.

Making a Bat character give the game some sex appeal is pretty wrong, especially since they introduced humans into the Sonic world.

LeeMan00
30-08-2008, 04:03
I'd have to say Mighty, you don't see too much of him, but I like him.

SEGA!
12-09-2008, 19:23
I was always a tails fan when I was young.

MachinistsChild
03-11-2008, 04:10
I'm a Manic fanboy always will be. I mean come on, hes a drummer!
from what I've found of the series he got more character development then Sonia and he was more interesting then her as well and we already knew sonic so they couldent mass with him to much. and he definitely was not annoying at all compared to the other characters in that series.

I like sonic, knuckles, and tails about the same they have their flews and endearing elements all fun stuff.

I've never liked the more mature characters. I'm a younger gamer and started out with SA2 on the dreamcast so its got nothing to do with them being any younger then Sonic himself its just that Rouge and shadow clashed with the Mobius I knew.. well.. Rouge more then anything, even in the new comics she still has the most for boobs and is the most flirtatious out of everyone where as how Amy, Julie-sue or even Sally was more .. innocent I guess. she was just too adult to like.
Shadow still had the something that made him fit, he was younger then Rouge(she really twicked me) but I never really got to know him that well.

sorry if this is a old tread, just reading through it made me want to post.

MrEthernex
06-11-2008, 06:03
Probably a Sonic and Tails fan. Sonic's the main (IDK why, but I always favor the main), and Tails because I more or less relate to him more. I'm a techie, a follower, and I can be f***in annoying at times. :P

MTails
14-11-2008, 13:16
me, its tails,knux and robotnik.
its always funny watching robotnik screw up in one way or another

Omega
26-11-2008, 19:31
I like Sonic, but other then Sonic, definately Silver

2k4killer
26-11-2008, 22:17
Shadow's my favourite! Gotta love the arch-nemesis type characters

Hairookami Kaimetsu
27-11-2008, 17:17
My favorite character is...hmm....uh...

Well, can't think of A favorite, but here my favorite 5:

Sonic
Shadow
Knuckles
Omega
Emerl

SegaShinja
15-03-2009, 11:09
Sonic and Metal Sonic. Sally too if we're counting comics, paperbacks and cartoons.

Sonicdude1995
18-03-2009, 13:05
Sonic and Shadow! Both are very cool characters! If counting the comics too, I like both Scourge and Dr. Finitivus!

Adam Novagen
18-03-2009, 16:24
Top 5 (in order) and I'm DOING ALL UNIVERSES COMBINED, so deal with it. XD

1: Sonic - he's classic, he's my favorite color, and he feeds my addiction to speed, which he put there in the first place anyway. :P
2: Sally - a hot princess who is, for once, NOT your typical damsel-in-distress. Get outta here, Peach. :nono:
3: Tails - a genius inventor with a knack for transforming vehicles?! C'mon, what's not to love?! We would totally hang out. XD
4: Shadow - he always seemed to me to be the only ever serious threat to Sonic's monopoly on awesomeness.
5: Scratch & Grounder - yeah, they're technically two characters, but they go together as a tag team, there's NO DENYING THAT. And yeah, they totally MADE AOSTH.

Least favorite (in order) - apologies in advance to fans I might annoy, no harm meant. :blush:

1: OMOCHAO - he is just SO A-N-N-O-Y-I-N-G. The only good thing about him is that you can SHOOT him, and also GRAB HIM and THROW HIM OFF A FREAKIN' CLIFF!!! No, seriously, you can. Try it. XD
2: Amy Rose - okay, she's spunky, I'll give her that to be fair. But she's immature, pesky, and I CANT... STAND... HER VOICE!!!!! :wacko::mad::wacko:
3: Tikal - possibly the worst actor and most pointless character in Sonic Adventure.
4: Chaos 4 - this is a gaming complaint. I HATE that watery boss fight from Sonic Adventure. Since when could Sonic walk on water anyway?!?!?! And where the HECK did the pool come from?!
5: Okay, I can't think of one. I like more than I hate. Sue me. :biggrin:

HIGH-MAC
18-03-2009, 18:40
May as well state them in no particular order, whatsoever:

1. Dr. Eggman. Sure, Sonic is the hero, but Dr. Eggman is only filled with vice in comparison to what Sonic feels is right. For a villian, and for the most part, he has a thousand times more quirkiness than, say, Bowser, who has none. Also, some of his plans and strategies do work well, until Sonic comes along (or, rather, the player).

2. Sonic. No reason needed to explain why.

3. Knuckles. The fact is simple, he is a sole survivor, wears gauntlets on his knuckles, keeps safe a highly prized and powerful emerald (Imagine how it would sell.), and he is stuck on an island. Furthermore, his personality is a classic example of rigid roughness and, putting all the ingredients together, you get Knuckles. Great character, IMO.

4. E-102 Gamma. He is the most tragic of the characters, which is why he deserves a mention (He also has the only instrumental theme in SA1, and it is the best theme of all IMO).

5. Tikal. Perhaps it's just that she is the pacifist of the milieu, but then again, she can tame a highly destructive, power-draining beast, one we call Chaos. She also has a cute factor, and you get to visit her home city in the middle of the game a la flashbacks, but overall, she just needs that restraining order that she has to be great.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's all folks!