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zelda_sushi
27-07-2008, 04:02
Are you happy with the Nintendo Wii currently? I've owned mine since last year and while it has games I did enjoy I just... can't seem to keep myself interested in the system because of the lackluster game library. I've played a ton of games and so far the only decent titles have been made by Nintendo with a few exceptions (No More Heroes, MoHH2, RE:UC, RE4) which saddens me.

The Virtual Console and the WiiWare channel are enough to keep me coming back for more but I really wish that developers would take the systems hardware serious and actually try to make good games for it instead of shovelware with tacked on controls for a cheap buck.

What I don't understand is that developers taunt the Wii's hardware as inferior thus it's not possible to make epic games on it. This makes no sense considering the hardware is as powerful as the original XBox which was just 2 years ago... why can't we have our games for the Wii that are similar to Halo 2, Fable, Forza, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Ultimate, etc? If the XBox could do it then the Wii can do it as well.

SuperMatt723
27-07-2008, 04:17
The only thing the Wii lacks, is Hardcore Games. I know they have the VC, but it's not enough.

mikevieira
27-07-2008, 05:15
My Wii is being repaired. I mostly hate it now XD

Tails_1986
27-07-2008, 10:05
Currently I'm quite happy with my Wii. The game library is quite good, but the game developers still don't take it seriously.

Reknoc
27-07-2008, 10:24
No, to be honest. Too much of it's games consist of shovelware crap and PS2 ports, not that all ports and bad but really a port is still a port. VC is nice but really it's nothing more than a mega emulator. WiiWare is nice but I don't want to get too excited about it till Nintendo sort their storage problem out.

zelda_sushi
27-07-2008, 10:31
Yeah I'm still waiting on Nintendo to release a Harddrive or something... they keep saying "You can use SD cards" but I guess Nintendo doesn't realize how slow transferring data is on the Wii doing this. It can take up to 15 minutes from my experience...

p_nut_uk
27-07-2008, 13:16
I am very happy with my Wii, it's very easy to forget games you have already completed. I could think of at least 20 games I have loved on the Wii, yeah of course a lot of 3rd parties make crap but that's true to every console.

If you wanna play Halo and Forza etc then get an XBOX 360. I like the Wii's alternate games as apposed to the other two platforms. It's always been the way, different consoles have different games and different styles of games, I don't want my Wii to have Gears of War or GTA, that's what my 360 is for, I like the different styles of games the Wii has.

As for the Storage problem it is going to be fixed, and hopefully soon.

Dr Shaneman
27-07-2008, 16:38
I'm quite happy with it as personally I don't want any other system. I'll admit it doesn't have a huge amount of games I'm interested in at the moment and I'm annoyed that their last update stopped my freeloader from working but I'm pleased with the VC as that is a good feature. Also, more SEGA games seem to released on the Wii so that's another bonus, overall it's got good and bad points but more good than bad.

FPS_Leo
27-07-2008, 18:06
As much as I like wii sports the wii just doesn't cater much to my tastes although I will be getting mario cart and smash bros. at some point. I know whatzelda_sushi is trying to say about the graphics as the xbox was quite powerfull.

Mindset
27-07-2008, 19:18
I like the Wii, but just like every other console, there are some pros and cons. There may not be a lot of hardcore games but hopefully there will be more in the future.

7Force
27-07-2008, 22:26
I like the Wii a lot although I just wish more developers would stop making mini game compilations and take the system more serious and realise more original games for the system like No More Heroes and Zak & Wiki instead of ports with motion controls that don’t work.

A plus side is VC it’s always nice to play classic games as well as import only stuff like Sin & Punishment and Gley Lancer and WiiWare shows a lot of potential already with games like Lost Winds.

Overall it’s a great system it has its down sides (storage space etc) but every system has a downside.

foreversonic
28-07-2008, 00:56
I'm happy with my Nintendo Wii.

I'm not really (if at all) a hardcore gamer, so I don't mind the sort of games it has. One thing I am disappointed with is the lack of online play, which to me seems quite capable of.

Another plus point is that it starts up a lot quicker than my laptop, so, quickly browsing the web for cinema times, etc. is quite handy.

I haven't yet had the need to move channels to SD cards, so I don't know about that, but that wouldn't really be a problem for me because I have a handful of other devices that use SD cards, so there's always one to hand should the need arise.

richarddavies
28-07-2008, 10:44
I'm happy with the games themselves. I've had and enjoyed a few games now since I got my Wii. But I'm not really impressed by the controls to be honest. They work ok but it just feels unnecessary, with games like Wii Sports. Fair enough it does the job but with more core games ( RE4, Zelda, Mario Galaxy etc.) I just don't think it actually adds anything to them or actually makes them more fun. You can just do what you do on the games with a control pad.

suzzopher
28-07-2008, 11:11
No not really. Super Mario Galaxy aside nothing on Wii has grabbed me. My two kids don't even play on it they prefer to play Sonic1 & 2, SEGA Superstar Tennis, Bomberman Live, Lego Indiana Jones and Turtles Arcade on 360.

This gen has not gone as planned I thought I'd like the Wii most with PS3 second and 360 distant last but 360 is my favourite, with Wii second and PS3 a very very very distant last.

Rayne
28-07-2008, 12:47
I'm not happy with it at all =[

Really dissapointing, forgetting the fact there's no new games coming out that look fun, and forgetting the fact that VC totally over charges you money to play games you could get for free..

Its still not great...not including ports or shovelware, I found Metroid 3 to be fairly dull when compared to the last 2, Galaxy played well but it just bugged me...maybe cause it was in space xP.

Umm...metroid and galaxy...zelda is a gamecube port...anything else?

I've played about 20 games for the Wii and none have ever made me sit up and play all night -_-

Though I guess the Wii isn't targeted at a gamer with half a brain anymore huh? XD give it a few more years and it'll be like HAL, making sure you excercise, eat right...

This generation has been the worst to date D: Its had great games and great platforms, but a load of wasted potential. The PS3 is my fave right now, the 360 makes me want to puke and the wii makes me want to cry :P

GamerGeorge
28-07-2008, 20:50
I'm mostly happy with the Wii, although the American Virtual Console lineup, in comparison to its Japanese counterpart, has really started to suck ass in recent months and it seems a lot of developers aren't even trying to use the console's unique control setup, opting instead to release quick ports and shit.

LeeMan00
28-07-2008, 22:06
I'm not too into motion control. SSBB was cool, but you play that with friends. I got NiGHTS, but my brother's been hogging the Wii. As for the VC, I haven't really seen any games I like. If some Saturn games(is it even possible) were there, I'd be a little more inclined, but until then, no.

Dr Shaneman
28-07-2008, 22:08
I'm not too into motion control. SSBB was cool, but you play that with friends. I got NiGHTS, but my brother's been hogging the Wii. As for the VC, I haven't really seen any games I like. If some Saturn games(is it even possible) were there, I'd be a little more inclined, but until then, no.
Saturn won't be possible due to the massive game size and it's un-emulateable on the Wii at the moment.

Rayne
28-07-2008, 22:12
Saturn won't be possible due to the massive game size and it's un-emulateable on the Wii at the moment.

Are they massive? I mean...Soul Calibur was done on the 360 arcade?

Shadid
28-07-2008, 22:17
Are they massive? I mean...Soul Calibur was done on the 360 arcade?

It was done because the 360 hardware has more capabilities of running games like Saturn, for example. And the Wii probably can't emulate Saturn games.
@Topic:
I don't know, I've only been with it for 4 weeks then it went to Holland. It's great, but the library is too small.

Dr Shaneman
28-07-2008, 22:23
Are they massive? I mean...Soul Calibur was done on the 360 arcade?
In comparison the Wii's internal memory size yes.

Rayne
28-07-2008, 22:43
In comparison the Wii's internal memory size yes.

Ah I shoulda seen that I suppose..

Killer French Bread
29-07-2008, 00:06
I think the Wii is a complete turd of a console if I'm honest. Terrible controller, limited graphics, mediocre games library and just nothing that stands out and grabs me. It's a console for women and easily amused drunk mates at the end of the day.

richarddavies
29-07-2008, 10:40
I think it just annoys me that rather than spend a bit of time coming up with something new. It's almost like they had a meeting and thought, "I've got an idea. See how I'm moving this guy around. *moves stick around* Now check out this *moves guy by twitching arm with new remote* ". (Nintendo boss) "That's great, stick it with a Gamecube. We'll make millions." They just try and convey an image of fun and being about the games and there just the most blatant cash whores out there.

Dr Shaneman
29-07-2008, 12:02
Seems to me after reading all these opinions that that word "games console" has lost all meaning. They're turning it into a bloody exercise machine.

Killer French Bread
29-07-2008, 16:29
For me the term Games console lost all meaning with the PS2, when they started trying to turn them into 'home entertainment hubs' or whatever bollocks they call them now.

TF73
29-07-2008, 18:39
I love my Wii! Almost feels like the Dreamcast in some ways. Many excellent games and some great DC ports. Hopefully the Shenmue rumour will be true too! Another thing is that all old GC games works! The future looks bright and shiny for this console!!:)

richarddavies
29-07-2008, 18:53
I love my Wii! Almost feels like the Dreamcast in some ways. Many excellent games and some great DC ports. Hopefully the Shenmue rumour will be true too! Another thing is that all old GC games works! The future looks bright and shiny for this console!!:)

Of course Gamecube games would work on it. It IS a Gamecube.-_-
And just to clarify, I'm not being a Sony fanboy or anything. The only console I have at the moment is a Wii.

Rayne
29-07-2008, 21:21
Of course gamecube games would work on it. It IS A gamecube.-_-
And just to clarify Im not being A sony fanboy or anything, the only console I have at the mo is A wii.

I think its now standard to have at least some degree of backwards compatibility, obviously the GC not having any as the N64 used Carts.

And the PS3 DOES have Backward Compatability (sp?) >_> certain models do anyway...ahem...

The Wii is more of a cheap twitch purchase...only problem being its not cheap at all. I was in the game store today and found about ten titles (out of about 200) that I would have a go and play with, then I look at things like controllers, light guns, and the cost of the system itself, it just doesn't really justify the expense...

I get the new market and everything, but you still have to cater to the old one, if you want games to continue selling and profit to role in, its the hardcore that buy them, not the salesman's wife who bought one as a joke, you know? :P

Killer French Bread
29-07-2008, 22:10
I think its now standard to have at least some degree of backwards compatibility, obviously the GC not having any as the N64 used Carts.

And the PS3 DOES have Backward Compatability (sp?) >_> certain models do anyway...ahem...



I don't know about that. The PS3 doesn't have BC apart from a few early models, by the end of the console's cycle that will be a trvial amount of the total userbase.

The 360 has an, almost insulting, token gesture of BC. MS copped out and cheaply tried to emulate a few games because they thought the PS3 would have full BC and didn't want to fall behind in any way. As soon as Sony drop BC the updates from MS 'just happen' to dry up. A coincidence, I think not.

The Wii is the only consle withi BC and that has almost the same archtecture as it's predecessor anyway.

Rayne
29-07-2008, 22:22
I don't know about that. The PS3 doesn't have BC apart from a few early models, by the end of the console's cycle that will be a trvial amount of the total userbase.

The 360 has an, almost insulting, token gesture of BC. MS copped out and cheaply tried to emulate a few games because they thought the PS3 would have full BC and didn't want to fall behind in any way. As soon as Sony drop BC the updates from MS 'just happen' to dry up. A coincidence, I think not.

The Wii is the only consle withi BC and that has almost the same archtecture as it's predecessor anyway.

The PS3 has full compatability with PS1 games =] The 80gb model is due for release in Europe this christmas, I don't know if it does PS2 games or not? If so it'd be cool =] retailing at the same price as a 360 Elite!

I was amazed at the 360's BC, classics like Sudeki don't work? wtf? o_O but games like Judge Dredd & Barbie do...grr...and the PS3 has a bad rep for BC, the 360 is just as bad.

Shadid
29-07-2008, 22:28
The PS3 has full compatability with PS1 games =] The 80gb model is due for release in Europe this christmas, I don't know if it does PS2 games or not? If so it'd be cool =] retailing at the same price as a 360 Elite!

Too bad that Sony said that model will be the same as the 40GB, so don't count PS2 on it. -_-

Rayne
29-07-2008, 22:29
Too bad that Sony said that model will be the same as the 40GB, so don't count PS2 on it. -_-

Ah well, argument still stands, the PS2 is one of the best selling consoles of all time, if you don't have one, why not? XD

Pick up a pre-owned one for about £30 anyways...same goes with Xbox :P

Shadid
29-07-2008, 22:33
I'm still happy with my PS2, but Guitar Hero III made me move to the PS3...But I'm still PS2-ded. And who isn't? XD
And that's cheap...(Means can't remember the price of it on the debut. XD)

Rayne
29-07-2008, 22:48
I'm still happy with my PS2, but Guitar Hero III made me move to the PS3...But I'm still PS2-ded. And who isn't? XD
And that's cheap...(Means can't remember the price of it on the debut. XD)

It was way expensive when first released -_- I got my slimline one much later for about £100, I got the Xbox first, it was way more exciting at the time :D

The PS2 just had all the best RPG's and Anime styled games...it also had the most bull and shovelware >.> but what can you do?

Anyway! I am noy happy with the Wii right now, the Wii is like a smoothie maker, you buy it, play with it once, and forget about it.

Aryn
01-08-2008, 22:01
I think i'd be happyer if they reliced more in depth games rather than all of than all of the remote fondeling ones that have saturated the market.

That said, I have a few titles i'm happy with so its not all bad. :biggrin:

Dave
03-09-2008, 01:19
As far as the Wii goes, it has become my fav. home console since N64, the only bad thing, as I see it, it's that the VC is still empty...

Kaito-kun
21-09-2008, 21:41
Warning: Rant Ahead.

Wii's been a big disappointment for me. I got it when it was first released, when it had so much potential, but that potential just vanished over the following year when the lousy ports turned up and anticipated games announced before launch were riddled with delays (Brawl; two years, Disaster: Day or Crisis & Project H.A.M.M.E.R; neither have ever turned up) and then the people who had never touched a console before suddenly pushed their noses in with their disposable incomes and the market is flooded with games I wouldn't touch with a pole vault pole.

It doesn't help that Ninty have really been annoying me lately; the high prices of games and preipherals, (£180 for a full set of controllers? Only three human beings can afford to waste money like that: Bill Gates (Who probably wouldn't considering he's Microsoft-man, fighting his arch-nemisis Dr. Jobs), The Queen (Who's too busy defending the Earth from aliens) and Satoru Iwata (because of all the damn money he's got from the Wii!)) along with the sheem around of poor quality games they're releasing for the Wii and DS ("Sight Training" anyone?) and their God awful adverts. (I want to gouge my eyes out of my head, shove my fingers into the bleeding eye sockets and twist them around in my brain to try and remove the memory of them when I see one)

Now onto the online service, first up the channels. They started off nicely (News, weather and webernet without having to get out of your chair? Very handy.) But things have slipped. The pathetic "Nintendo Channel" puts me in mind of nothing more than self-propelling propagander and the Mii Contest Channel was a slight novelty at first, but after ten minutes you get a bit sick of the endless poorly made Mario/Simpsons/Family Guy/Naruto characters, worst of all they havwen't given us anyhting to make up for it since, it's been months since they've given us a good idea for a channel.

Vitual Console, I'll be brief: I like it, but it's far too expensive.

*Takes a moment for a breath or two*

I'm not going to repeat what everyone else has said about the storage issue.

I want to like my Wii, I really really do, but the combination of Nintendo's current attitue and the lack of brilliant games for it don't make me all smiley inside like I thought Wii would make me when it was first released.

Rayne
21-09-2008, 21:46
Warning: Rant Ahead.

Wii's been a big disappointment for me. I got it when it was first released, when it had so much potential, but that potential just vanished over the following year when the lousy ports turned up and anticipated games announced before launch were riddled with delays (Brawl; two years, Disaster: Day or Crisis & Project H.A.M.M.E.R; neither have ever turned up) and then the people who had never touched a console before suddenly pushed their noses in with their disposable incomes and the market is flooded with games I wouldn't touch with a pole vault pole.

It doesn't help that Ninty have really been annoying me lately; the high prices of games and preipherals, (£180 for a full set of controllers? Only three human beings can afford to waste money like that: Bill Gates (Who probably wouldn't considering he's Microsoft-man, fighting his arch-nemisis Dr. Jobs), The Queen (Who's too busy defending the Earth from aliens) and Satoru Iwata (because of all the damn money he's got from the Wii!)) along with the sheem around of poor quality games they're releasing for the Wii and DS ("Sight Training" anyone?) and their God awful adverts. (I want to gouge my eyes out of my head, shove my fingers into the bleeding eye sockets and twist them around in my brain to try and remove the memory of them when I see one)

Now onto the online service, first up the channels. They started off nicely (News, weather and webernet without having to get out of your chair? Very handy.) But things have slipped. The pathetic "Nintendo Channel" puts me in mind of nothing more than self-propelling propagander and the Mii Contest Channel was a slight novelty at first, but after ten minutes you get a bit sick of the endless poorly made Mario/Simpsons/Family Guy/Naruto characters, worst of all they havwen't given us anyhting to make up for it since, it's been months since they've given us a good idea for a channel.

Vitual Console, I'll be brief: I like it, but it's far too expensive.

*Takes a moment for a breath or two*

I'm not going to repeat what everyone else has said about the storage issue.

I want to like my Wii, I really really do, but the combination of Nintendo's current attitue and the lack of brilliant games for it don't make me all smiley inside like I thought Wii would make me when it was first released.

:O Sing it my brother, Amen!

I'm actually pretty surprised to hear it coming from you :blush:

Kaito-kun
21-09-2008, 21:51
:O Sing it my brother, Amen!

I'm actually pretty surprised to hear it coming from you :blush:

The truth is the truth, there is no point in trying to avoid it. Your signature makes a ruddy good point if I may say so.

Rayne
21-09-2008, 21:55
The truth is the truth, there is no point in trying to avoid it. Your signature makes a ruddy good point if I may say so.

I was hypnotised by their mouths :blush:

Well I mean...what titles are planned? The 360 has Gears 2, Fable 2, etc....PS3 has LBP, Resistance, Killzone....

The Wii doesn't seem to have any AAA titles announced or anything major...

Kaito-kun
21-09-2008, 22:03
I was hypnotised by their mouths :blush:

Well I mean...what titles are planned? The 360 has Gears 2, Fable 2, etc....PS3 has LBP, Resistance, Killzone....

The Wii doesn't seem to have any AAA titles announced or anything major...
*Gasp* Whatever do you mean? Did you not hear from their E3 speech? They've got another slightly altered version of Animal Crossing and Wii Music coming! Wii Music! That was greatest announcement session they've had for years in my view.

(Note: That was sarcasm.)

Then again at the end of the conference they tacked this onto the end: "Uh...We've got Mario and Zelda in development....We swear! Don't look at us like we're just making this up! We're not! We just uh...Just...*Shiggy and co. run off stage before any questions are able to be asked*"
Things look great, don't they?

Rayne
21-09-2008, 22:41
*Gasp* Whatever do you mean? Did you not hear from their E3 speech? They've got another slightly altered version of Animal Crossing and Wii Music coming! Wii Music! That was greatest announcement session they've had for years in my view.

(Note: That was sarcasm.)

Then again at the end of the conference they tacked this onto the end: "Uh...We've got Mario and Zelda in development....We swear! Don't look at us like we're just making this up! We're not! We just uh...Just...*Shiggy and co. run off stage before any questions are able to be asked*"
Things look great, don't they?

Ever get the feeling the heads of Zelda & Mario team died and now the trainees are struggling for new ideas? XD Besides they could be working on a new game, but the new game could be like....Brain Exercise keep fit yoga cooking class....

What the Wii really needs to do is stay away from motion controlls, look at Brawl. That game is amazing (with a GC controller) They need to be more free in letting developers use normal controllers without motion, at least that way the Wii could get some ports, or developers for PS3 & 360 may be more swayed to do a game for Wii too.

Not that motion controls are a bad thing, just they can ruin a game that doesn't need them...Sonic and The Secret Rings is a good example...

Tails_1986
21-09-2008, 23:00
Kaito-kun you have really valid reasons. Besides Wario Land, Madworld and the next batch of Sonic games I'm not really looking for anything in particular for the Wii. Besides like Rayne's signature says, the DS is the real Nintendo money maker.

I'm generally satisfied with my Wii, but I'm also getting tired of the amount of shovelware released.

Dr Shaneman
21-09-2008, 23:01
Warning: Rant Ahead.

Wii's been a big disappointment for me. I got it when it was first released, when it had so much potential, but that potential just vanished over the following year when the lousy ports turned up and anticipated games announced before launch were riddled with delays (Brawl; two years, Disaster: Day or Crisis & Project H.A.M.M.E.R; neither have ever turned up) and then the people who had never touched a console before suddenly pushed their noses in with their disposable incomes and the market is flooded with games I wouldn't touch with a pole vault pole.

It doesn't help that Ninty have really been annoying me lately; the high prices of games and preipherals, (£180 for a full set of controllers? Only three human beings can afford to waste money like that: Bill Gates (Who probably wouldn't considering he's Microsoft-man, fighting his arch-nemisis Dr. Jobs), The Queen (Who's too busy defending the Earth from aliens) and Satoru Iwata (because of all the damn money he's got from the Wii!)) along with the sheem around of poor quality games they're releasing for the Wii and DS ("Sight Training" anyone?) and their God awful adverts. (I want to gouge my eyes out of my head, shove my fingers into the bleeding eye sockets and twist them around in my brain to try and remove the memory of them when I see one)

Now onto the online service, first up the channels. They started off nicely (News, weather and webernet without having to get out of your chair? Very handy.) But things have slipped. The pathetic "Nintendo Channel" puts me in mind of nothing more than self-propelling propagander and the Mii Contest Channel was a slight novelty at first, but after ten minutes you get a bit sick of the endless poorly made Mario/Simpsons/Family Guy/Naruto characters, worst of all they havwen't given us anyhting to make up for it since, it's been months since they've given us a good idea for a channel.

Vitual Console, I'll be brief: I like it, but it's far too expensive.

*Takes a moment for a breath or two*

I'm not going to repeat what everyone else has said about the storage issue.

I want to like my Wii, I really really do, but the combination of Nintendo's current attitue and the lack of brilliant games for it don't make me all smiley inside like I thought Wii would make me when it was first released.
At least it doesn't break down >_>.

Rayne
21-09-2008, 23:04
At least it doesn't break down >_>.

Perhaps because it uses about as much power as a solar calculator? XD

Dr Shaneman
21-09-2008, 23:09
Perhaps because it uses about as much power as a solar calculator? XD
All I say to all these rants is people are f**king fussy, I get so pissed at seeing people bitch about consoles and certain games. If you don't like it just say why once ans leave it be.

Kaito-kun
21-09-2008, 23:33
All I say to all these rants is people are f**king fussy, I get so pissed at seeing people bitch about consoles and certain games. If you don't like it just say why once ans leave it be.
To be fair that's the only real rant I've ever said about the Wii.

Dr Shaneman
21-09-2008, 23:37
To be fair that's the only real rant I've ever said about the Wii.
I was on about people in general, not you only.

Rayne
21-09-2008, 23:41
I was on about people in general, not you only.

Well it is a thread asking whether or not the Wii is living up to its expectations, as that changes every month who knows? I could come back having seen them release a new Zelda game and say its the best system on the market.

We're brittish, scratch that, most of us are brittish >_> what do you expect us to do other than moan?

Dr Shaneman
21-09-2008, 23:51
Well it is a thread asking whether or not the Wii is living up to its expectations, as that changes every month who knows? I could come back having seen them release a new Zelda game and say its the best system on the market.

We're brittish, scratch that, most of us are brittish >_> what do you expect us to do other than moan?
Fine then, I'll leave you to it. I just don't see the point in moaning as it gets you no where.

Rayne
22-09-2008, 00:03
Fine then, I'll leave you to it. I just don't see the point in moaning as it gets you no where.

I don't really expect Nintendo to actually listen to the people that buy their products, that would just be....well....sensible...

Same can go to Microsoft and Sony though.

Its just interesting to head what other people think about it is all

richarddavies
22-09-2008, 10:37
I got rid of my Wii about 3-4 weeks after getting it. Games were ok enough, I just felt jipped that I'd paid full whack for a Gamecube. I know gaming's a business but at least Sony and Microsoft will actually put some money into there games and consoles, just re-releasing an old console and making games using the same graphic engines from back when the cube first came out, making the cost of each game about 50p then charging full price takes the biscuit. And releasing about 4 different versions of every pissin game they make just to cash in on the fans. I could rant on about Nintendo all day so im gonna stop, Shanemans right. Its just that there such f***'s.

7Force
22-09-2008, 22:16
Well all I have to say is that I love the Wii, really I do I play it more then my 360 these days though I do have to agree on some of the points raised here.

I’ll admit Nintendo seem to be forgetting about the hardcore gamer with all these how to make you smarter games or how to cook better food etc but when they do games for the hardcore I and everybody else sits up and takes notice but the problem is there’s not enough of them. I can understand Nintendo wanting to have more people play games with all these casual games and I have no problem with that its just they should not forget about their roots. It’s the hardcore gamers that what made them in the first place and they should not forget that yet they seem to be. The last true hardcore Nintendo game I remember is SSBB, it was the game Wii owners were waiting for after what seemed a decade but then nothing. Disaster: Day or Crisis is on its way & Project H.A.M.M.E.R that looked cool has sadly been canned now after these what else is there? Now I love Nintendo always will but to get the respect it should from its hardcore fan base it needs to change.

Another thing that gripes me about the Wii is the lack of truly great 3rd party games. Apart from No More Heroes and Zak & Wiki and some of SEGA’s stuff name one other truly great 3rd party Wii game? There isn’t anything it seems rather that developers would rather take the safe route and port over PS2 games with bad graphics with pointless motion controls that don’t work, it seems they are scared to make something original and rather play it safe yet it does not seem to work. Even Ubi Soft admitted that may of their Wii game were poor and that they needed to improve. Another thing is those endless party games. We don’t need anymore we have Wii Sports and Wii Play both a lot of fun and yet publishers would rather throw money at making these games rather then putting in money for original games and why? Because that’s where the money is, they sell in the bucket loads so they play it safe and make more of them. It seems many publishers are taking us Wii owners for idiots.

The online services I have a love hate relationship with yes the Nintendo channel is nothing more then one big TV ad the only saving grace of it is the fact you can download demos of DS games though it’s a lot of old stuff on there and not a lot of new stuff, this needs to change. Mii Contest channel is fun I always enter the compos when there on but Kaito-kun is right on the fact that it gets quite old seeing the same old Mario/Simpson’s/Family Guy/Naruto characters but there is some pretty good stuff on there if you look hard enough.

Virtual Console I like this a lot its always good to play some old classics again but there are some poor choices on there and the fact that a lot of gems are not up there. Although WiiWare is a saving grace I already have Lostwinds, Bomberman Blast, Dr Mario and Pop and am having a great time with them, Lostwinds already shows what developers can do on the Wii if they let there imagination run wild which needs to happen more.

I love my Wii and will never part with it but it really needs more creativity and true gamers games so that people can take it seriously as an essential games console and not as just some childish kids toy. With games like House Of The Dead OverKill and MadWorld coming soon it shows that the Wii can be taken seriously but if its to continue then publishers and Nintendo should stop wasting time and give us the games we want.

Kaito-kun
22-09-2008, 22:19
Well all I have to say is that I love the Wii, really I do I play it more then my 360 these days though I do have to agree on some of the points raised here.

I’ll admit Nintendo seem to be forgetting about the hardcore gamer with all these how to make you smarter games or how to cook better food etc but when they do games for the hardcore I and everybody else sits up and takes notice but the problem is there’s not enough of them. I can understand Nintendo wanting to have more people play games with all these casual games and I have no problem with that its just they should not forget about their roots. It’s the hardcore gamers that what made them in the first place and they should not forget that yet they seem to be. The last true hardcore Nintendo game I remember is SSBB, it was the game Wii owners were waiting for after what seemed a decade but then nothing. Disaster: Day or Crisis is on its way & Project H.A.M.M.E.R that looked cool has sadly been canned now after these what else is there? Now I love Nintendo always will but to get the respect it should from its hardcore fan base it needs to change.

Another thing that gripes me about the Wii is the lack of truly great 3rd party games. Apart from No More Heroes and Zak & Wiki and some of SEGA’s stuff name one other truly great 3rd party Wii game? There isn’t anything it seems rather that developers would rather take the safe route and port over PS2 games with bad graphics with pointless motion controls that don’t work, it seems they are scared to make something original and rather play it safe yet it does not seem to work. Even Ubi Soft admitted that may of their Wii game were poor and that they needed to improve. Another thing is those endless party games. We don’t need anymore we have Wii Sports and Wii Play both a lot of fun and yet publishers would rather throw money at making these games rather then putting in money for original games and why? Because that’s where the money is, they sell in the bucket loads so they play it safe and make more of them. It seems many publishers are taking us Wii owners for idiots.

The online services I have a love hate relationship with yes the Nintendo channel is nothing more then one big TV ad the only saving grace of it is the fact you can download demos of DS games though it’s a lot of old stuff on there and not a lot of new stuff, this needs to change. Mii Contest channel is fun I always enter the compos when there on but Kaito-kun is right on the fact that it gets quite old seeing the same old Mario/Simpson’s/Family Guy/Naruto characters but there is some pretty good stuff on there if you look hard enough.

Virtual Console I like this a lot its always good to play some old classics again but there are some poor choices on there and the fact that a lot of gems are not up there. Although WiiWare is a saving grace I already have Lostwinds, Bomberman Blast, Dr Mario and Pop and am having a great time with them, Lostwinds already shows what developers can do on the Wii if they let there imagination run wild which needs to happen more.

I love my Wii and will never part with it but it really needs more creativity and true gamers games so that people can take it seriously as an essential games console and not as just some childish kids toy. With games like House Of The Dead OverKill and MadWorld coming soon it shows that the Wii can be taken seriously but if its to continue then publishers and Nintendo should stop wasting time and give us the games we want.

Sir, I honestly believe that you've hit the nail squarely on the head. *Applauds briefly*

7Force
22-09-2008, 22:29
Sir, I honestly believe that you've hit the nail squarely on the head. *Applauds briefly*

Thank you good sir what I will say is that evey console has its problems, not every one of them is prefect but its all really about the games and the Wii despite some crap ports has some truly magic titles which makes me proud to be a gamer.

Dr Shaneman
22-09-2008, 22:47
Nicely put 7Force.

Cantido
22-09-2008, 23:10
I have to say yes. People don't like it because it does not have a Halo or Call of Duty but we got all the original games. We have Brawl, Mario Kart, No More Heroes, and so on. The stuff we're going to get is Amazing Monster Hunter 3, Capcom vs (that one anime company, can't remember name right now), Mad World and those are just a few. Wii may not get the big games but the Wii gets original games. I will take those any day.

Rayne
23-09-2008, 01:23
I’ll admit Nintendo seem to be forgetting about the hardcore gamer with all these how to make you smarter games or how to cook better food etc but when they do games for the hardcore I and everybody else sits up and takes notice - Do they? What was the last hardcore game they made? Brawl didn't add anything new, nor did Mario Galaxy & Zelda was a glorified gamecube port, I haven't seen anything that gets me excited

It seems many publishers are taking us Wii owners for idiots. - At the very least, 60% are parents/young kids that wouldn't know better and wouldn't care, why should they make something great for a small bit of the market, when they can make cheap shovelware that WILL sell?

The online services I have a love hate relationship with yes the Nintendo channel is nothing more then one big TV ad the only saving grace of it is the fact you can download demos of DS games though it’s a lot of old stuff on there and not a lot of new stuff, this needs to change. Mii Contest channel is fun I always enter the compos when there on but Kaito-kun is right on the fact that it gets quite old seeing the same old Mario/Simpson’s/Family Guy/Naruto characters but there is some pretty good stuff on there if you look hard enough. - Agree, there's a few gems that made me really laugh

Virtual Console I like this a lot its always good to play some old classics again but there are some poor choices on there and the fact that a lot of gems are not up there. Although WiiWare is a saving grace I already have Lostwinds, Bomberman Blast, Dr Mario and Pop and am having a great time with them, Lostwinds already shows what developers can do on the Wii if they let there imagination run wild which needs to happen more. - All overpriced, that's my personal point of view...but so is XBLA and at least here when you spend a fiver you get Super Mario World and not Dig Dug

I love my Wii and will never part with it but it really needs more creativity and true gamers games so that people can take it seriously as an essential games console and not as just some childish kids toy - But it is a childs toy, and a tool for learning and educating. They'll never, ever be able to shake that image now, familys know it, gamers know it, if you asked Joe Public to describe a Wii he wouldn't call it a Hardcore gaming machine, even if they did bring out new titles. Its like the 360 will always be seen as faulty with the RROD, even if/when they fix the issue

I pretty much agree on every point you made except a few things...

I'll be interested to see what they do next generation, how much they upgrade their hardware, if they go for casual or hardcore. It would be hard to win a good hardcore share again, but how do you keep the casual entertained, whatshisname....Myamoto? Miyamoto stated he was out of ideas and his projects were done for the Wii....yeah, it'll be interesting

On a lighter note, I've found a new font <3

Omega
03-10-2008, 20:44
I personally really like my Wii. I understand where some of you are coming from when they complain about the graphics and that they're leaving the hardcore behind, but the Wii definitely has better graphics then the Gamecube. Which the Gamecube had pretty good graphics to begin with. And since when did games for the hardcore have to have the hi-def graphics? Hardcore means it's fit to be a tournament based competitive game, Brawl, MKW, GH, and a whole slew of other games fit this category.

7Force
04-10-2008, 13:26
I personally really like my Wii. I understand where some of you are coming from when they complain about the graphics and that they're leaving the hardcore behind, but the Wii definitely has better graphics then the Gamecube. Which the Gamecube had pretty good graphics to begin with. And since when did games for the hardcore have to have the hi-def graphics? Hardcore means it's fit to be a tournament based competitive game, Brawl, MKW, GH, and a whole slew of other games fit this category.
On the graphics part yes you are right the Wii has better graphics the the GameCube, case point Mario Galaxy and the upcoming FPS The Conduit.

...and yes, hardcore is not about HD graphics these days. I still see people play games like Street Fighter 2 Turbo in tournaments and I've seen tournament videos off SSBB in action. The Wii has some hardcore but not a big amount of it but then I'm not that a hardcore player, I'm more of a core player, and as I said before the Wii has some shit but go through it and you will find some good stuff.

Reknoc
04-10-2008, 16:50
On the graphics part yes you are right the Wii has better graphics the the GameCube, case point Mario Galaxy and the upcoming FPS The Conduit.

and yes hardcore is not about HD graphics these days i still see people play games like Street Fighter 2 Turbo in tournaments and I've seen tournament videos off SSBB in action. The Wii has some hardcore but not a big amount of it but then i'm not that a hardcore player i'm more of a core player and as i said before the wii has some shit but go through it and you will find some good stuff.

Surely the "Hardcore" people complaining about the Wii are Hardcore Nintendo fans? Y'know the ones that got kicked in the groin when all Nintendo had to offer at E3 was Animal Crossing in favour of chartz and some snowboarding game. Even their TGS thing wasn't much better, oh yea Punch-Out is awesome and I can't wait but its still not enough.

Not to mention Nintendo is stuck in some time frame where its fine to treat Europe like shit when 360 games are generally released within the same month here as America.

7Force
04-10-2008, 20:35
Even their TGS thing wasn't much better, oh yea Punch-Out is awesome and I can't wait but its still not enough.

.

Would Sin & Punishment 2 make you happy other then Punch Out
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40742.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40742.html:)
:)

Rayne
04-10-2008, 22:01
Would Sin & Punishment 2 make you happy other then Punch Out
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40742.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40742.html:)
:)

I fell in love with the art & characters more than the gameplay, but it'd be cool to see a sequel.

I always feel kinda funny with Wii games in that....I can never stop thinking what they could have been like.

If they did F-zero on the wii? I'd love it, but I couldn't help thinking what it would have been like in HD with a 360's increased power, you know?

Reknoc
05-10-2008, 00:34
If they did F-zero on the wii? I'd love it, but I couldn't help thinking what it would have been like in HD with a 360's increased power, you know?

I don't, for me GX was F-Zero, no, racing perfection. Almost, I would like to see it online.

Yea I did see Sin & Punishment 2 but aren't Treasure making that? I can't be angry at them... except for deciding to make the new Bleach on Wii instead of the region free DS.

Rayne
05-10-2008, 00:40
I don't, for me GX was F-Zero, no, racing perfection. Almost, I would like to see it online.

Didn't gel for me, controls weren't tight enough, graphics were dull...all a bit meh, though I bought it recently, so maybe I'm used too perfection XD

7Force
05-10-2008, 15:35
I don't, for me GX was F-Zero, no, racing perfection. Almost, I would like to see it online.

Yea I did see Sin & Punishment 2 but aren't Treasure making that? I can't be angry at them... except for deciding to make the new Bleach on Wii instead of the region free DS.

Treasure are making S&P2 and as of Bleach on the Wii since Treasure are doing it i'm hoping they will do it justice since the first game was a bit meh.

Oh and Treasure are doing a new Bleach game for the DS its called Bleach: Dark Souls.
http://uk.ds.ign.com/dor/objects/842509/bleach-ds-2nd/videos/bleach_sizzle_trailer.html

Reknoc
05-10-2008, 18:34
Treasure are making S&P2 and as of Bleach on the Wii since Treasure are doing it i'm hoping they will do it justice since the first game was a bit meh.

Oh and Treasure are doing a new Bleach game for the DS its called Bleach: Dark Souls.
http://uk.ds.ign.com/dor/objects/842509/bleach-ds-2nd/videos/bleach_sizzle_trailer.html


Not new, I've had it over a year now. The new Bleach on the Wii seems to be more a continuation of the DS series as opposed to a sequal to whatever the Wii version was called. The newest Bleach game on DS is some kind of SRPG.

7Force
05-10-2008, 18:36
Not new, I've had it over a year now. The new Bleach on the Wii seems to be more a continuation of the DS series as opposed to a sequal to whatever the Wii version was called. The newest Bleach game on DS is some kind of SRPG.
Oh yeah that one forgot about that, my bad.

Kaito-kun
05-10-2008, 19:24
I don't, for me GX was F-Zero, no, racing perfection. Almost, I would like to see it online.
Sing it brother! If Nintendo announced they were working on a squeal and were working on it with Sega like GX then my faith would be restored.

Although I never managed to unlock the AX tracks or characters... *Grumble*

Killer French Bread
05-10-2008, 20:41
Would it really make a difference putting F-Zero on the 360? The game has never been about the graphical detail, but throwing your ship around the track at stupid speeds. May as well play Wipeout if you want a cool looking game.

Rayne
05-10-2008, 21:01
Would it really make a difference putting F-Zero on the 360? The game has never been about the graphical detail, but throwing your ship around the track at stupid speeds. May as well play Wipeout if you want a cool looking game.

Yeah it would, doesn't matter if it hasn't been about graphics before, it can still be about em now, and would really give it the extra performance, never really felt like I was doing 1000 miles an hour on the GC.

F-zero's ships look cooler, Wipeout HD is awesome but I just never 'got' the franchise...from PS1 till now I've never really enjoyed it

Killer French Bread
05-10-2008, 21:05
Well your not really asking for a new F-Zero game in that case.

Rayne
05-10-2008, 21:15
Well your not really asking for a new F-Zero game in that case.

Lol, god forbid an F-Zero game should be given the best hardware and performance.

Its just an example -_- it'd rock on a PS3 or 360, it'd be a GC port on the Wii, tis my view of all Wii games

Kaito-kun
05-10-2008, 21:25
Lol, god forbid an F-Zero game should be given the best hardware and performance.

Its just an example -_- it'd rock on a PS3 or 360, it'd be a GC port on the Wii, tis my view of all Wii games
While that may technically be true we all should remember one basic fact: Who owns F-Zero?

Killer French Bread
05-10-2008, 21:27
I know, I'm not disputing that it would look good on a 360, or defending Nintendo's approach to next gen gaming, but I'm questioning why you want a sequel to F-Zero if you then want to change some of the defining characteristics of the series. What is F-Zero excpet a super fast, stripped down racing game? It's whole ethos is about the speed and racing, and nothing else really. F-zero 64 looked crap compared to Wipeout 3 and Ridge Racer 4 back in the PSX/N64 days so technology might not make that much of a difference. You are basically asking for a different type of racing game if you want detail and that.

I wouldn't mind a new racing game from Sega myself, and as I don't really care that much about the Wii and do like good graphics, would prefer too see it on the 360 too. So I'm probably arguing about complete rubbish as usual now I think about it, lol.

Rayne
05-10-2008, 21:46
I know, I'm not disputing that it would look good on a 360, or defending Nintendo's approach to next gen gaming, but I'm questioning why you want a sequel to F-Zero if you then want to change some of the defining characteristics of the series. What is F-Zero excpet a super fast, stripped down racing game? It's whole ethos is about the speed and racing, and nothing else really. F-zero 64 looked crap compared to Wipeout 3 and Ridge Racer 4 back in the PSX/N64 days so technology might not make that much of a difference. You are basically asking for a different type of racing game if you want detail and that.

I wouldn't mind a new racing game from Sega myself, and as I don't really care that much about the Wii and do like good graphics, would prefer too see it on the 360 too. So I'm probably arguing about complete rubbish as usual now I think about it, lol.

The point got taken a little far, I just meant while I sit down and enjoy Wii games, I always get the niggling feeling that they could be just that bit better if the big N made an effort on the hardware front

Killer French Bread
06-10-2008, 12:18
Yup, I can agree with that.

wilkybarkid
08-10-2008, 16:41
to be fair, the Wii has offered some fantastic games, No More Heroes, Bully, Zelda Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Brawl just to name a few. I can understand why some people would get bored or underestimate the mass of Wii Games available, that is why many have gone for an Xbox or PS3.

Rayne
08-10-2008, 17:12
to be fair, the Wii has offered some fantastic games, No More Heroes, Bully, Zelda Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Brawl just to name a few. I can understand why some people would get bored or underestimate the mass of Wii Games available, that is why many have gone for an Xbox or PS3.

Bully is multi-platform and Twilight Princess is a GC port :P

wilkybarkid
09-10-2008, 10:29
Bully is multi-platform and Twilight Princess is a GC port But they Are Still Great Games, even if they are multi-platform doesn't mean they are not good, an example. Bully controls differently to the original game and so does twilight princess.

Killer French Bread
09-10-2008, 11:33
They are both not only on other platforms but are games from the last gen. Even mash buttons is only a marginally a next gen game, a update more than anything, (but then again Nintendo fanboys only ever seem to squak about wanting more sequels so you can't blame them for taking the easy money).

richarddavies
09-10-2008, 13:48
Wii just pisses me off. What annoys me is the fact that I had a few games for it and enjoyed em but there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn't of worked fine on the gamecube. Zelda, Mario, Metroid, no more heroes etc. They all would've worked fine on it. They just charged me full whack for a machine I already had.:mad:

Rayne
09-10-2008, 14:19
Wii just pisses me off. What annoys me is the fact that I had a few games for it and enjoyed em but there is absolutely no reason why they wouldn't of worked fine on the gamecube. Zelda, Mario, Metroid, no more heroes etc. They all would've worked fine on it. They just charged me full whack for a machine I already had.:mad:

I don't mind paying £30 for them (That's all I would pay for a new game these days) so long as they have support for a GC pad. Twilight Princess, personally I thought played better on the Gamecube, but maybe I'm just plain rubbish at motion controls ^__^"

Imagine brawl with no GC pad support o.o" nightmare..

richarddavies
09-10-2008, 14:32
I didn't mean the price of the games I meant paying for a new console to play games that would've worked just as well on there last one.

Rayne
09-10-2008, 14:52
I didn't mean the price of the games I meant paying for a new console to play games that would've worked just as well on there last one.

That's true, but without releasing a whole new console, with a new logo and new ad campaign, to a lot of people its almost like a new brand...so they'd have never got the sales otherwise...

Have a brand new Xbox 360!! Or...an upgrade to the old Gamecube....

See what you mean though =/

BiG MARCKy MARC!
10-10-2008, 00:21
Are you happy with the Nintendo Wii currently? I've owned mine since last year and while it has games I did enjoy I just... can't seem to keep myself interested in the system because of the lackluster game library. I've played a ton of games and so far the only decent titles have been made by Nintendo with a few exceptions (No More Heroes, MoHH2, RE:UC, RE4) which saddens me.

The Virtual Console and the WiiWare channel are enough to keep me coming back for more but I really wish that developers would take the systems hardware serious and actually try to make good games for it instead of shovelware with tacked on controls for a cheap buck.

What I don't understand is that developers taunt the Wii's hardware as inferior thus it's not possible to make epic games on it. This makes no sense considering the hardware is as powerful as the original XBox which was just 2 years ago... why can't we have our games for the Wii that are similar to Halo 2, Fable, Forza, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Ultimate, etc? If the XBox could do it then the Wii can do it as well.

I totally disagree with you sorry... =[
The Wii Is a Totally Different Thing Compared to the xbox And thats what makes it unique....
The controls are different, graphics are different, how do you think they would survive the marketing scheme if they start having everything like everybody else? I like the Wii And what it is, I do how ever agree they need a more variety of games but, towards the software and design its good how it is.... my opinion

Leox001
10-10-2008, 01:09
I totally disagree with you sorry... =[
The Wii Is a Totally Different Thing Compared to the xbox And thats what makes it unique....
The controls are different, graphics are different, how do you think they would survive the marketing scheme if they start having everything like everybody else? I like the Wii And what it is, I do how ever agree they need a more variety of games but, towards the software and design its good how it is.... my opinion

I think that the first post meant that the wii has a lot more graphical power than the developers show to us, that it has a graphic power comparable with the XboX
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I believe, that the Wii, is lacking of "teh Hardcore" games, Wii's becoming more and more like the N64 looked like, a console for kids, with not many "strong" titles...

I fear nintendo's living in a cave, thinking they are making great stuff but in fact they are being surpassed by the other consoles.
The wii has a good concept in the way of controlling games, but lacks of serious games that leave you a good taste in your mouth.

Dave
10-10-2008, 05:37
Objection!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The N64 was one of my favorite consoles, and it wasn't for kids, you will still find some people playing it!!!

Also, i'm happy with the Wii, it is so simple, that makes me love it, i mean, who needs graphics if it doen't have a good gameplay, also, i feel happy to try to move something to play instead of just pressing buttons, the wii's good, just because it doesn't have hardcore games doesn't mean it's bad, i mean come on!

No more heroes, Resident Evil: Wii Edition, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, House of Dead II and III, etc.

We also need to remember that Nintendo isn't a console just for violence, i know that what everyone is looking for it's a GTA on wii or something crazy like that.

The gameplay is fun, and with that, for me it's all that matters!

Reknoc
10-10-2008, 08:32
One thing that annoys me when Nintendo Defence Squads turn up is usually the same cliched defences "Just because it isn't violent" "Games don't need to have amazing graphics" "these two things related directly to "hardcore"".

I grew up with Nintendo as a kid but I still look at the Wii with somewhat disgust. Nintendo has constantly been stubborn with Hardware. When Sony and SEGA gave use disc based games on consoles that could hold more data and cost less, Nintendo stuck the rather expensive and limited cartridges, with the only real advantage was lack of loadtimes. When they did eventually move on to discs they used some weird ass format.

However what format the games are are not really the problem at the moment. One of the big features of the Wii when it was announced was VC, maybe WiiWare I'm not sure, but certainly DLC. So why oh why did they not bother to look at gaming platforms that already offered DLC, the 360 and PC? What did they both have in common? That's right proper storage. So what did Nintendo decide to do? Oh yea put in tiny little flash storage on the Wii and didn't allow you the option of running stuff straight off the SD Card. That's been fixed now but not without alot of uncertainty that Nintendo gave a shit about it, with NoE boss, even though originally taken out of context, saying only the hardcore fans care, but that's ok because that's not who Nintendo care about anymore.

Speaking of hardware, the Wii's main selling point, now that it's no longer the price, is the interesting motion controls... Sorry I mean Wii Sports as it's the only game to really make decent/accurate use of the WiiMote. Sure it was fun on No More Heroes but could be a dick at times and not recognise your input, and it worked well on Resident Evil 4 but sadly included waggle...

...Waggle, the Wii has had a decent run so far, so why do developers still not know what the fuck to do with the WiiMote? I think at this point the WiiMote will never lose that gimmick title. Mostly just being badly implemented, other times being the worse choice for control with the GC pad or the Classic Controller being a much better option.

Of course now we have the Motion "sorry turns out those WiiMotes you have are unfinished please pay extra to complete them" Plus to look forward to, that developers were apparently never told about, hopefully we will get more than just crappy party games to get out when you're drunk.

Edit: Also the amount of last gen ports doesn't help, especially when they're actually worse than they were on the original console (Zelda) and now Nintendo have made GCports a series? Why did one stupid idea from Capcom turn to this?
Edit: Unless these games are like £12 like Xbox Originals, then it's somewhat O.K (not that I would buy an Xbox Original, I don't want Crimson Skies enough to waste 4GBs on it).

Rayne
10-10-2008, 16:21
No more heroes, Resident Evil: Wii Edition, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, House of Dead II and III, etc.

We also need to remember that Nintendo isn't a console just for violence, i know that what everyone is looking for it's a GTA on wii or something crazy like that.

The gameplay is fun, and with that, for me it's all that matters!

Resident Wii edition is just a port, Umbrella chronicles & HOTD are just lightgun games, and No More Heroes was different, but not perfect.

Pretty much exactly what Reknoc said...why would I now buy a wii when I can get a 360 £80 cheaper?

Hardcore games ARE about graphics, think back to previous hardcore titles, they've all stunned us with their use of graphics. No one is asking for violence either, Metal Gear isn't vioent, nor is Halo (both compared to other games at least) Ocarina of Time wasn't violent, nor is F-Zero...

Dr Shaneman
10-10-2008, 16:50
This thread needs a poll...
Ok, so most games are ports or dull or maybe something you wouldn't even use to dig a grave with but in all odds it depends how much of a badass gamer you really. If you wanna grow up to be the next Vadar or world dictator or SegaMark (LOL) then most probably the 360's kill em' all games are for you or the PS3's... whatever the hell it's got (stuff like MGS & GTA).
If you just casually game every now and then, wanna laugh while you play or think you're someone who needs excersise then the Wii's relaxing party/arcade/free style genre is for you.
So to end it I feel as I always do about these debates, "Who bloody cares" XD. If you don't like it don't buy it.

(I tried to make that as easy and fun to read as possible :P)

Rayne
10-10-2008, 16:53
*bites tongue*

....*covers mouth*....


.........*shakes*......

NUUUUUUUUUUUUU THE WII DOESN'T KEEP JOO FIT!!!! >:E ITS ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...*cough* sorry >_< I just hate that marketing angle, other than that, I totally agree ^^"

p_nut_uk
10-10-2008, 17:24
Hardcore games ARE about graphics

That's a daft comment to make, ask most people on this forum what their favourite 3 games ever are and I bet most will have a 2d game in their choice. You were asked in another thread recently what your "favourite all time game" was and you mentioned Pokemon and Guitar Hero, as possible candidates to your favourite game. Graphics aren't everything;).

Also, who would deny Viewtiful Joe was absolutely brilliant? It wasn't breaking barriers with it's graphics when released.

Anyway ask yourselves "why do I play games?" and then you'll find the 'point' of games. As a clue the answer is written on this picture. It begins with 'E'.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/p_nut_uk/sega_genesis2_box_1.jpg

Reknoc
10-10-2008, 17:32
That's a daft comment to make, ask most people on this forum what their favourite 3 games ever are and I bet most will have a 2d game in their choice. You were asked in another thread recently what your "favourite all time game" was and you mentioned Pokemon and Guitar Hero, as possible candidates to your favourite game. Graphics aren't everything;).

Also, who would deny Viewtiful Joe was absolutely brilliant? It wasn't breaking barriers with it's graphics when released.

Anyway ask yourselves "why do I play games?" and then you'll find the 'point' of games. As a clue the answer is written on this picture. It begins with 'E'.


I was going to say something about graphics not being everything. This is true, but thinking back if we did say a 2D game is out favourite ever, chances are it was fantastic looking for it's time or compared to other games on the system.

Also graphics are not limited to decals and bloom or whatever, style is part of it. So yes Veiwtiful Joe had style oozing out of everywhere, meaning that graphically it was amazing.

This generation though, HD graphics are boring. A game featuring photo realistic graphics is nothing, run of the mill, yet when Capcom announce an 8-bit game people are getting massive nerd erections. To me most of these "HD" games are ugly anyway.

Rayne
10-10-2008, 17:34
That's a daft comment to make, ask most people on this forum what their favourite 3 games ever are and I bet most will have a 2d game in their choice. You were asked in another thread recently what your "favourite all time game" was and you mentioned Pokemon and Guitar Hero, as possible candidates to your favourite game. Graphics aren't everything;).

Also, who would deny Viewtiful Joe was absolutely brilliant? It wasn't breaking barriers with it's graphics when released.

Anyway ask yourselves "why do I play games?" and then you'll find the 'point' of games. As a clue the answer is written on this picture. It begins with 'E'.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/p_nut_uk/sega_genesis2_box_1.jpg

E?

Viewtiful Joe was very stylish when first released, and it was hardly a blockbuster game either...

These days graphics are one of the few things left that they can improve, gameplay has become so cliche' and dry, a shooter can be that bit more appealing when it blows you away with its graphics.

Personally, I play games to chill out, will I play a game that looks like shit? Probally not...Metal Gear 4 or Gears of War...Those I'd choose to show as Hardcore games...the graphics blew everyone away with some refined gameplay mechanics

Killer French Bread
10-10-2008, 17:37
The N64 was one of my favorite consoles, and it wasn't for kids,



Oh yes it was.

Reknoc
10-10-2008, 18:17
Oh yes it was.

Whoops I didn't see that.

Yes it was, so are most consoles.

It's like you watch a cartoon, say a Pixar film, and it has a joke that goes right over the childs head but you find it funny because you get it, are you going to say this film isn't for kids because it has humour you understand?

richarddavies
10-10-2008, 18:26
Yeah too be honest we just need to accept gaming isn't the most adult of hobbie. When we are into a format where the definition of adult is a space marine going round saying F this, F that. You know it ain't the most sophisticated of hobbies.

Oh well F**k it I love it.

Killer French Bread
10-10-2008, 18:39
In that gen the PSX was promoting its consoles in night clubs and stuff while Nintendo was pushing Mario and Pokemon down the throat of every kid in the country. I suppose it had Goldeneye but that was about it. There is no doubt it was percieved as the more childish console of the gen.

BluePuyo
10-10-2008, 19:02
That's a daft comment to make, ask most people on this forum what their favourite 3 games ever are and I bet most will have a 2d game in their choice. You were asked in another thread recently what your "favourite all time game" was and you mentioned Pokemon and Guitar Hero, as possible candidates to your favourite game. Graphics aren't everything;).

Also, who would deny Viewtiful Joe was absolutely brilliant? It wasn't breaking barriers with it's graphics when released.

Anyway ask yourselves "why do I play games?" and then you'll find the 'point' of games. As a clue the answer is written on this picture. It begins with 'E'.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/p_nut_uk/sega_genesis2_box_1.jpg

E?

Entertainment, games are made for entertainment, but this concept is a little lost nowadays.

Graphics is the main word, people want a lot in the graphic department. Graphics isn´t the most important, and like Dave said before, if the game is fun, is sufficient, at least for me.

And with this I enter in another point, critics:
People now wants, it seems, "perfect games".
The quality is important, but, too much? People start to argue about everything, even the most minimal issues, and maybe one minimal detail could ruin the experience of one, without reason.
But this goes, I think, with the preference of each one, there are persons more critics than others.
So, how have fun with a game that doesn´t have what I want?

To close, I play games for have fun and to have a good time enjoying them, I don´t look into details too much, becuase isn´t too important to me, to “me”.

Rayne
10-10-2008, 19:49
E?

Entertainment, games are made for entertainment, but this concept is a little lost nowadays.

Graphics is the main word, people want a lot in the graphic department. Graphics isn´t the most important, and like Dave said before, if the game is fun, is sufficient, at least for me.

And with this I enter in another point, critics:
People now wants, it seems, "perfect games".
The quality is important, but, too much? People start to argue about everything, even the most minimal issues, and maybe one minimal detail could ruin the experience of one, without reason.
But this goes, I think, with the preference of each one, there are persons more critics than others.
So, how have fun with a game that doesn´t have what I want?

To close, I play games for have fun and to have a good time enjoying them, I don´t look into details too much, becuase isn´t too important to me, to “me”.

When it gets to the point people argue over like....slightly different framerates, they need to get out more, when I fall through the floor, or stick to walls I'll get annoyed....but minor glitches are to be expected =]

Tails_1986
10-10-2008, 19:56
When it gets to the point people argue over like....slightly different framerates, they need to get out more, when I fall through the floor, or stick to walls I'll get annoyed....but minor glitches are to be expected =]

People can be a little too picky. But, in terms of graphics the problem isn't having good graphics or not. The problem is that nowadays it's more and more used to hide severe gameplay problems. To me gameplay is more important than graphics any day of the week.

And besides there are lots of old games that while not being graphical bombs by nowadays standards, that still look good nowadays.

Dr Shaneman
11-10-2008, 15:42
*bites tongue*

....*covers mouth*....


.........*shakes*......

NUUUUUUUUUUUUU THE WII DOESN'T KEEP JOO FIT!!!! >:E ITS ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...*cough* sorry >_< I just hate that marketing angle, other than that, I totally agree ^^"
I know but... think Wii Fit XD. Despite the fact I'm never going to touch the stuff >_>.

Rayne
11-10-2008, 17:21
People can be a little too picky. But, in terms of graphics the problem isn't having good graphics or not. The problem is that nowadays it's more and more used to hide severe gameplay problems. To me gameplay is more important than graphics any day of the week.

And besides there are lots of old games that while not being graphical bombs by nowadays standards, that still look good nowadays.

In retrospect, looking back at some games you see they've held their age quite well. Graphics isn't everything, but I'm fed up of hearing N fanboys shout that from the rooftops to cover up Nintendo's lazyness with the Hardware & Software (not a dig at you :P")

Wii Fit is just lies >:E it does not burn calories, certainly not as much or as well as a bit of regular exercise would.

Dr Shaneman
11-10-2008, 18:09
In retrospect, looking back at some games you see they've held their age quite well. Graphics isn't everything, but I'm fed up of hearing N fanboys shout that from the rooftops to cover up Nintendo's lazyness with the Hardware & Software (not a dig at you :P")

Wii Fit is just lies >:E it does not burn calories, certainly not as much or as well as a bit of regular exercise would.
That's because most of us are lazy though so we don't have any knowledge of fit XD.

Tails_1986
11-10-2008, 19:09
In retrospect, looking back at some games you see they've held their age quite well. Graphics isn't everything, but I'm fed up of hearing N fanboys shout that from the rooftops to cover up Nintendo's lazyness with the Hardware & Software (not a dig at you :P")

Wii Fit is just lies >:E it does not burn calories, certainly not as much or as well as a bit of regular exercise would.

There are several games that still look as good now as when they were released. Also the only fanboyism you'll probably see from me will be directed to either Sonic, NiGHTS or Klonoa ... but not much.:P

It's better to have a game with great graphics and solid gameplay. I just value gameplay more. In the graphics scene simple doesn't mean bad.

Aryn
11-10-2008, 21:25
Well I'm happy with the Wii right now, if only because Atlus releaced Baroque in England finaly.

I guess the next step is to actualy get it... :unsure:

MrEthernex
11-10-2008, 23:28
I like my Wii, but I don't enjoy it as much as my 360.

Reknoc
12-10-2008, 00:09
Well I'm happy with the Wii right now, if only because Atlus releaced Baroque in England finaly.

I guess the next step is to actualy get it... :unsure:

Shame baroques probably better on the PS2 because it won't have stupid controls.

Aryn
13-10-2008, 01:37
Shame baroques probably better on the PS2 because it won't have stupid controls.

Perhaps....

But it would give my Wii somthing to do other than gather dust.

Leox001
13-10-2008, 02:10
Shame baroques probably better on the PS2 because it won't have stupid controls.

Perhaps....

But it would give my Wii somthing to do other than gather dust.

confirmed, you all love the Wii :wub:



XD I mean if you don't like it sell it, or why the hell did you bought it in first place, it was stated from the start that it wouldn't give you the same experience of the other consoles but something different.

Reknoc
13-10-2008, 03:24
confirmed, you all love the Wii :wub:



XD I mean if you don't like it sell it, or why the hell did you bought it in first place, it was stated from the start that it wouldn't give you the same experience of the other consoles but something different.

I don't sell it because I generally like Nintendo games (when they get to making some that aren't training or party based), and I wasn't expecting this "different experience" to be stick waggling/waving that doesn't translate in the slightest to what's happening in game.

Leox001
13-10-2008, 06:30
I don't sell it because I generally like Nintendo games (when they get to making some that aren't training or party based), and I wasn't expecting this "different experience" to be stick waggling/waving that doesn't translate in the slightest to what's happening in game.

well that last would be fixed with the new "wii motion plus" that's going to be released soon....

FPS_Leo
13-10-2008, 12:23
well that last would be fixed with the new "wii motion plus" that's going to be released soon....
Yeah, it alows you to do things with the wii we all thought you could do with it when it first came out.:rolleyes:

Reknoc
13-10-2008, 13:16
well that last would be fixed with the new "wii motion plus" that's going to be released soon....

It shouldn't have to be fixed, it's what the Wii was supposed to do in the first place.

Another problem with that is it basically just brought the Wii back to the start, so once again developers are going to be unfamilar with it and no doubt release more shovelware to see how it works.

Sherlock
13-10-2008, 13:59
Am I happy with the Wii? Huh... Yes. Yes, I think I am.

I've been a Nintendo-fan since the very first minute (don't mind my birth date, I played Mario when I was a Fetus ;P). I have all consoles of Nintendo, except the Virtual Boy and the Japanese Famicom-versions of NES and SNES.
Nintendo started to be in the hardware what Capcom has already been for long in the software branch: The innovative.
I bought the Wii - to be honest - for one major reason: Smash Bros. Brawl. But I got me some other games, of course. And most of them are pretty outside of the common series. I own no Zelda, for example. However, I love the ideas of so many games Nintendo (and others) created.
New Mario Kart, new Wario Land, new Smash Bros., new Super Mario, new WarioWare. Heck, all of these games are really cool.
And then there's offcourse titles like the Metal Slug Anthology, Megaman 9, Sonic Riders or the announced Klonoa remake.
Holy hell, YES!! <3

I love my Wii, and I love my Nintendo~

7Force
13-10-2008, 21:25
Am I happy with the Wii? Huh... Yes. Yes, I think I am.

I've been a Nintendo-fan since the very first minute (don't mind my birth date, I played Mario when I was a Fetus ;P). I have all consoles of Nintendo, except the Virtual Boy and the Japanese Famicom-versions of NES and SNES.
Nintendo started to be in the hardware what Capcom has already been for long in the software branch: The innovative.
I bought the Wii - to be honest - for one major reason: Smash Bros. Brawl. But I got me some other games, of course. And most of them are pretty outside of the common series. I own no Zelda, for example. However, I love the ideas of so many games Nintendo (and others) created.
New Mario Kart, new Wario Land, new Smash Bros., new Super Mario, new WarioWare. Heck, all of these games are really cool.
And then there's offcourse titles like the Metal Slug Anthology, Megaman 9, Sonic Riders or the announced Klonoa remake.
Holy hell, YES!! <3

I love my Wii, and I love my Nintendo~

i'm with you I love online Mario Kart and SSBB, Warioware/Land and Mario Galaxy. And you get cool points from me for giving a shout out to Metal Slug Anthology, bloody awesome even if the remote only controls are wack. And as for Sonic Riders Zero Gravity despite the bad reviews I liked it but only with the GC pad because without it its crap.

Also you for got to add Metroid Prime 3, Mario & Sonic, Zack & Wiki, Ghost Squad, NiGHTS, RE4, De Blob, No More Heroes and Okami. Sure some of them are ports but then if they are still fun even with motion controls who gives a shit?

Sherlock
13-10-2008, 21:33
Oh yeah, forgot Metroid Prime 3. Haven't played the others~

Aryn
15-10-2008, 02:24
XD I mean if you don't like it sell it, or why the hell did you bought it in first place, it was stated from the start that it wouldn't give you the same experience of the other consoles but something different.

I don't hate the Wii, I'm just suffering from a lack of games to play on it.

That and I can save a whole £5 getting a Wii version. ;)

Reknoc
15-10-2008, 02:31
Oh yeah, forgot Metroid Prime 3. Haven't played the others~

Metroid Prime is one of the few games I've played that use the Wiimote perfectly.

SuperMatt723
15-10-2008, 02:36
I happen to use my Wii more often, now that developers are treating the Wii respectfully. I play games like Samba de Amigo(fantastic use of two remotes) Mega Man 9, Virtual Console games, and Now that Wii games Will have DLC, i dont think ill rush out as fast to go get a 360 just for RB2 Or Guitar Hero.

Reknoc
15-10-2008, 02:39
I happen to use my Wii more often, now that developers are treating the Wii respectfully. I play games like Samba de Amigo(fantastic use of two remotes) Mega Man 9, Virtual Console games, and Now that Wii games Will have DLC, i dont think ill rush out as fast to go get a 360 just for RB2 Or Guitar Hero.

Shame most of them require decent storage and I don't think Nintendo's current solution is good enough.

Dr Shaneman
15-10-2008, 02:45
Shame most of them require decent storage and I don't think Nintendo's current solution is good enough.
No it isn't, I'm waiting for a good use for those USB ports.

Dave
15-10-2008, 02:48
Well, if i continue downloading hits from past consoles on the VC, i am going to experience hard problems, as with the Samba cost took allmost the same blocks of data like SSBB, but still it's fun...


I owe you all a big SORRY if you felt like if i was protecting Nintendo at all cost, it's just that my friends are always talking about how the Xbox360 and PS3 are better, and about the things i said, they think that a hardcore game must be like that, so i was just trying to sound like them...Sorry ALL...Please forgive me

Apart for that, i must say that the Wii is good, not a 10/10, but it's ok and funny, and for me, it's all that matters, the fun!

Reknoc
15-10-2008, 02:48
It's funny because like the motionplus being able to read stuff directly from SDcards should have been available from launch, also doesn't the Wii have problems with anything more than 2GBs?

Those USB ports are totally useful since it's compatible with a USB keyboard, not like it has MSN or... any reason to use one.

Edit: Also when will Nintendo use a real measure of space? Blocks doesn't tell me shit, tell me how many GBs... sorry MBs I have left and how much saving most of these VC games on a SD card would take up.

SuperMatt723
15-10-2008, 03:06
Well, Nintendo is Trying to fix things,
but what i think, is that by the time the Wii is actually Awesome(Plenty of storage space, awesome games, dlc, good online play, ETC.) We might get a new nintendo console. its pointless to do all these things,(unless you can port EVERYTHING)

Leox001
15-10-2008, 03:33
Those USB ports are totally useful since it's compatible with a USB keyboard, not like it has MSN or... any reason to use one.
opera browser maybe?
you can get in eBuddy from there and use MSN in your wii, there, keyboard problem solved :)

Reknoc
15-10-2008, 03:50
opera browser maybe?
you can get in eBuddy from there and use MSN in your wii, there, keyboard problem solved :)

Except that any web messenger is mega slow on Nintendo Wi-fi just like everything else.

Leox001
15-10-2008, 05:10
hey what about these games coming for the wii :)

http://www.wiitalia.it/screenshots/albums/rune-factory-frontier-4/rune-factory-frontier-4-wii_013.jpg

http://www.wiitalia.it/screenshots/albums/rune-factory-frontier-4/rune-factory-frontier-4-wii_017.jpg

http://www.wiitalia.it/screenshots/cache/tetris-party-1/tetris-party-1-wii_001.jpg_592.jpg

they look pretty promising...

Except that any web messenger is mega slow on Nintendo Wi-fi just like everything else.
that's obvious, in every console the internet browsing its pretty slow.

StubbsiBoy
21-10-2008, 01:13
I am very happy with the wii.

Completing sentences (even the small details) is not so difficult a task. Please try to remember this in the future. *Sound Reaper*

SuperMatt723
22-10-2008, 04:02
But honestly, Everyone complains about the storage problem when its not that big a deal. There are plenty of options like Ridding of the channels on the home and just get them when you wanna play them, and save the memory on an SD. Or you can just not be dumb and dont buy and download shit loads of VC, WiiWare, and channels. Clean out your memory if there is a game or two that you havent played and dont plan to in the future, Like lets say Wii sports or something. just delete the save file.

Solve the problem your self and stop bitching to Nintendo. Yes they messed up bad. But they went for simplicity and innovation with the Wii. Not the next 360.

Reknoc
22-10-2008, 08:15
But honestly, Everyone complains about the storage problem when its not that big a deal. There are plenty of options like Ridding of the channels on the home and just get them when you wanna play them, and save the memory on an SD. Or you can just not be dumb and dont buy and download shit loads of VC, WiiWare, and channels. Clean out your memory if there is a game or two that you havent played and dont plan to in the future, Like lets say Wii sports or something. just delete the save file.

Solve the problem your self and stop bitching to nintendo. yes they messed up bad. But they went for simplicity and innovation with the Wii. Not the next 360.

How is having to dick about ininstalling stuff and reinstalling stuff, since it doesn't yet read directly off a SD card, simplicity and innovation? It's not.

The Wii has alot of pretty decent stuff up on VC and WiiWare, hell it probably has more going for it then what you can buy in shops.

coolmedina
22-10-2008, 21:39
No, to be honest. Too much of it's games consist of shovelware crap and PS2 ports, not that all ports and bad but really a port is still a port. VC is nice but really it's nothing more than a mega emulator. WiiWare is nice but I don't want to get too excited about it till Nintendo sort their storage problem out.

Have you ever tryed super mario galaxy or Zelda? Those are some good games and there is a new one comming out a shooter with good expactions for shooter fans.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14248157/vids_1.html

Aryn
24-10-2008, 21:18
Have you ever tryed super mario galaxy or Zelda? Those are some good games and there is a new one comming out a shooter with good expactions for shooter fans.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/142/14248157/vids_1.html

Too easy, in both cases. :(

Damn it nintendo, some of us want a challenge! :mad:

neocoyo
15-11-2008, 15:11
when you speak on the graphics side of things i personally think if game develpers actually gave a danm about making a GOOD game then they would try and make use of ALL the Wii has to offer....but there are some things they could have added, like a CD player or the ability to play VCDs, but as far as the memory thing goes they should give us the ability to use those USB ports to connect external memory devices.:unsure: ....nintendo make such great consoles thises days but they never use their full potential. but i guess if the did push themselves to the limit then they would suffer simailar issues to X360 and the PS3 ..(Cough)..overheating..(Cough)..XD

Rayne
15-11-2008, 15:15
when you speak on the graphics side of things i personally think if game develpers actually gave a danm about making a GOOD game then they would try and make use of ALL the Wii has to offer....but there are some things they could have added, like a CD player or the ability to play VCDs, but as far as the memory thing goes they should give us the ability to use those USB ports to connect external memory devices.:unsure: ....nintendo make such great consoles thises days but they never use their full potential. but i guess if the did push themselves to the limit then they would suffer simailar issues to X360 and the PS3 ..(Cough)..overheating..(Cough)..XD

The PS3 does not over-heat XD ever, the 360...well...it helps during the winter XD

I'm not sure why nintendo doesn't do these things, they come across very arrogantly...Microsoft & Sony are desperate to please their customers, yeah it takes forever, but they do eventually add in changes that have been asked for, Nintendo just seem to ignore all the problems.

Killer French Bread
15-11-2008, 15:23
I'm not sure why nintendo doesn't do these things, they come across very arrogantly...Microsoft & Sony are desperate to please their customers, yeah it takes forever, but they do eventually add in changes that have been asked for, Nintendo just seem to ignore all the problems.

Because they know there are enough idiots who will buy any old rubbish as long as it has a pokemon character in it. They probably wouldn't have survived the disaster of the N64 else.

Sonicdude1995
17-01-2009, 10:57
i'm happy but can b better. should add read dvd feature & the memory should b bigger!

Sherlock
17-01-2009, 11:00
should add read dvd feature

Why? What does it bring you to have a GAME console being able to read DVD movies? Consoles are made for video games. <.<"

Rayne
17-01-2009, 13:12
Why? What does it bring you to have a GAME console being able to read DVD movies? Consoles are made for video games. <.<"

Games consoles are for entertainment >_> they should all have DVD drives by now, I expect them to have Blu Ray drives next generation.

Not having a DVD drive is a big reason as to why the GC failed so miserably, just from a practicle point of view :) I have about 4 remote controls and my room is bursting full of stuff, if I can avoid having a DVD player I would, tis why I bought an Xbox last generation, then PS2, then Gamecube for about a tenenr

Dr Shaneman
17-01-2009, 13:31
Games consoles are for entertainment >_> they should all have DVD drives by now, I expect them to have Blu Ray drives next generation.

Not having a DVD drive is a big reason as to why the GC failed so miserably, just from a practicle point of view :) I have about 4 remote controls and my room is bursting full of stuff, if I can avoid having a DVD player I would, tis why I bought an Xbox last generation, then PS2, then Gamecube for about a tenenr
The Gamecube had one, it was just an extra you had to pay for >_<''
I agree with Rayne though.

Rayne
17-01-2009, 13:59
The Gamecube had one, it was just an extra you had to pay for >_<''
I agree with Rayne though.

Really? I didn't know that, never saw one in stores :)

Dr Shaneman
17-01-2009, 14:03
Me either (though I never bothered to look as my PS2 does that job) but I heard they existed.

Rayne
17-01-2009, 14:08
Me either (though I never bothered to look as my PS2 does that job) but I heard they existed.

Probably a bit of a collector's item now :)

I was surprised when I saw Nintendo yet again didn't include one. Originally people said it was so they could keep the price low, but now the 360 is way cheaper and has way more features >_> so....get it together Nintendo

Dr Shaneman
17-01-2009, 14:14
Most probably as I don't think a big lot of them sold either.

Reknoc
17-01-2009, 14:36
Rather useless feature, I use consoles to play games I've used my 360 and PS2 like one time to watch a DVD. Cept for the PS3 which is really just a Blu-Ray player that also happens to play games.

Aryn
23-01-2009, 02:28
Rather useless feature, I use consoles to play games I've used my 360 and PS2 like one time to watch a DVD. Cept for the PS3 which is really just a Blu-Ray player that also happens to play games.

And a lack of good ones at that.

I'm starting to be more content with my Wii than I was, but that could be thfact they've finaly brought out a few games I'm after or at least curious enough about to try.

sonicbandicoot
25-01-2009, 23:27
when you speak on the graphics side of things i personally think if game develpers actually gave a danm about making a GOOD game then they would try and make use of ALL the Wii has to offer....but there are some things they could have added, like a CD player or the ability to play VCDs, but as far as the memory thing goes they should give us the ability to use those USB ports to connect external memory devices.:unsure: ....nintendo make such great consoles thises days but they never use their full potential. but i guess if the did push themselves to the limit then they would suffer simailar issues to X360 and the PS3 ..(Cough)..overheating..(Cough)..XD

Oh my goodness, totally agree with you! I love my Nintendo Wii! Especially the internet feature(which I'm using right now!)! They SHOULD of put a music player, I agree. But meh, then it'd be too much like the PS3, I guess. X>

I love my Wii! I'm just not a PS3/360 type of person. But a lot of my friends have those systems, but meh. The Wii makes me happy! -v-

Rayne
26-01-2009, 00:29
But meh, then it'd be too much like the PS3, I guess. X>

That of course, would be a horrific thing

Reknoc
26-01-2009, 01:00
That of course, would be a horrific thing

Well aslong as the Wii never forces to me to install games it's all dandy.

Actually a music player thing is the one shitty multimedia thing that makes a console generally better, more specifically the 360 becuase if I don't like the games music... BAM! Instant custom soundtrack.

Gavvie
02-02-2009, 18:45
That's true, and it does make some games a bit random...like Katamari and Gears of War.

7Force
02-02-2009, 20:16
But meh, then it'd be too much like the PS3, I guess. X>


Yeah a £300 door stop:P

Rayne
02-02-2009, 20:51
Yeah a £300 door stop:P

*shlap*

Puh-leeze :/ my brother was at the point of building a mario shrine and even he's got his Wii in a corner gathering dust. I honestly don't know anyone that actually plays it day-to-day :P funny watching all the nintendo fans quietly shift over to other platforms

Kaito-kun
02-02-2009, 21:04
I honestly don't know anyone that actually plays it day-to-day
Surely Nintendo would be happy with that; they get the profits from selling their consoles and people hardly ever use it. Money money money...Must be funny...

funny watching all the nintendo fans quietly shift over to other platforms
*Waves* Hello!

Sherlock
02-02-2009, 21:10
I play my Nintendo consoles day to day. DS every day, Wii every second one (Wii or GCN games, mainly Wii... <<"). And that although I'm not really much into gaming lots of times.

I've also sticked true to Nintendo since the Dreamcast-Crash (tragic, I still cry myself into sleep at night).

I'll never get myself a PS3, mainly because I despise Sony and how the philosophy of the company is (similar to Apple, myes) - even though I'm VERY tempted to get a PSP for the sole reason of damn Dissidia. And that's only ONE game (and maybe add Sonic Rivals, Guilty Gear and Megaman Powered Up to the mix...).

The only thing I'm thinking of is maybe an XBox 360, but besides Eternal Sonata I wouldn't really know a game worth for getting a whole console for.

On the other hand, I am very fond of most of the Wii games I got. There's only a few of lasting games which I really enjoy, but those I play a lot.

Rayne
02-02-2009, 22:28
To be fair every console has games worth playing I won't bother naming 20 reasons you should own each system.

The only thing I would say is that from my point of view, every other system has more to play on it than the Wii does, and comparing this year's schedule the Wii is lacking (surpise surprise) not to say its a bad console but I hate Nintendo's philosiphy (Gets kids to buy and leave them to rot! :D)

Sherlock
02-02-2009, 22:46
So it's Nintendo's fault that other developers don't bring out good games for the Wii? Cool.

I have to say, the majority of Wii games I enjoy playing are from Nintendo. Only Metal Slug Collection, Ookami and Sonic Riders are the only Non-Nintendo games I play on my Wii.
So it definitely isn't Nintendo's fault, they've brought out quite a lot of games, for almost every major game franchise one.

Rayne
02-02-2009, 22:56
So it's Nintendo's fault that other developers don't bring out good games for the Wii? Cool.

I have to say, the majority of Wii games I enjoy playing are from Nintendo. Only Metal Slug Collection, Ookami and Sonic Riders are the only Non-Nintendo games I play on my Wii.
So it definitely isn't Nintendo's fault, they've brought out quite a lot of games, for almost every major game franchise one.

Yup, it is. They don't encourage or enforce any sort of quality.

Name the first party games that are any good. Mario Kart = broken, Brawl is Melee with another skin, Galaxy was crap, though I'll give you points for it. Twilight Princess was a port. err....any others?

Sherlock
02-02-2009, 23:02
How do you mean that Mario Kart is broken?
How is Brawl a Melee "skin"?
Why is Galaxy bad?

But... Very funny. "Disqualifying" good games for no reason other than they would debunk your "argument" that Nintendo only made shit is pretty lame debating, Rayne. I'd expect more from you than that.

I also wasn't talking of Twilight Princess - I don't really like the Zelda-series, and never played TP, so I don't know.

Also:
Metroid Prime 3
Wario Land: Shake It!
WarioWare Smooth Moves
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Dr. Mario & Bacteria Extermination

Besides, it's up to the developers themselves to decide what platforms they want to release their games on.

Rayne
02-02-2009, 23:16
How do you mean that Mario Kart is broken?
How is Brawl a Melee "skin"?
Why is Galaxy bad?

But... Very funny. "Disqualifying" good games for no reason other than they would debunk your "argument" that Nintendo only made shit is pretty lame debating, Rayne. I'd expect more from you than that.

I also wasn't talking of Twilight Princess - I don't really like the Zelda-series, and never played TP, so I don't know.

Also:
Metroid Prime 3
Wario Land: Shake It!
WarioWare Smooth Moves
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Dr. Mario & Bacteria Extermination

Besides, it's up to the developers themselves to decide what platforms they want to release their games on.

If I'm honest I'm running on 3 hours worth of sleep :P I'll pwn you later

Sherlock
02-02-2009, 23:28
I don't need to be pwned. I acknowledge your point that the Wii has little games to offer which aren't shovelware.

But proposing your opinion as facts and claiming Nintendo and their games are crappy because you don't like them for whatever reason is not debating.

Also, Nintendo's philosophy is more "Videogames for the whole family". That people like us aren't interested in Wii Music and whatever shovelware comes from them is clear. I never denied that.

Sony's (and Apple's for that matter) philosophy is (and has always been): Make the strongest console with many many gimmicks (started with PS2). And put in Multimedia, because everyone LOVES Multimedia.
Squeezing the last Cent outta possible customers isn't what I'd say is a great company philosophy - hence my dislike for Sony.

Nintendo got that crap with the shovelware and squeezing everything out the pockets of their customers from Sony, btw. Look at the DSi. No real innovations on the DS itself, just a smaller one with multimedia stuff. Wow. Sounds JUST like a PSP to me.

Problem is - most game developers put their efforts into the handhelds. Look how many great games there are for the DS - and to some extent the PSP.
None of the 3 home consoles can compete with those.

Gavvie
02-02-2009, 23:34
With the DSi, you're forgetting that it's taking features out that mean that it's not a suitable upgrade from a DS, due to it's lack of a GBA port.

Also, most DS games will look shit on it because of the bigger screens. They weren't designed for them, so they'll look pixelly and awful.

I don't know what Nintendo are thinking, but they're sinking to their knees, wanting to please everybody and, ultimately, they're pleasing absolutely nobody.

Rayne
02-02-2009, 23:52
I don't need to be pwned. I acknowledge your point that the Wii has little games to offer which aren't shovelware.

But proposing your opinion as facts and claiming Nintendo and their games are crappy because you don't like them for whatever reason is not debating.

Also, Nintendo's philosophy is more "Videogames for the whole family". That people like us aren't interested in Wii Music and whatever shovelware comes from them is clear. I never denied that.

Sony's (and Apple's for that matter) philosophy is (and has always been): Make the strongest console with many many gimmicks (started with PS2). And put in Multimedia, because everyone LOVES Multimedia.
Squeezing the last Cent outta possible customers isn't what I'd say is a great company philosophy - hence my dislike for Sony.

Nintendo got that crap with the shovelware and squeezing everything out the pockets of their customers from Sony, btw. Look at the DSi. No real innovations on the DS itself, just a smaller one with multimedia stuff. Wow. Sounds JUST like a PSP to me.

Problem is - most game developers put their efforts into the handhelds. Look how many great games there are for the DS - and to some extent the PSP.
None of the 3 home consoles can compete with those.

I mean to state facts as facts >_> it generally helps, I'm too tired so I'll appologise.

I whole-heartedly disagree. Nintendo's philosiphy isn't really games for the whole family, that seems to take all their focus of course but its more 'games with accessories we can tack on to charge extra' The fact they never publically acknowledge that they're alienating other gamers or that some of their software genuinly is poor is what's most frustrating.

Look at Microsoft and Sony, they may be slow but they do listen to people's opnions, Microsoft have Avatars and the like, Sony have added trophies (many more features, I can't be bothered to remember :P)

There's nothing wrong with creating the strongest console, is there? So long as it lives up to the hype, I feel its pretty exciting. Before we draw parallels yes the PS2 had masses of shovelware but it also had plenty for 3rd party and first party support to create some of the most memorable games ever.

Multi-media? Of course!! I'm paying £200 for a console! Why shouldn't it play videos?! Play music, show pictures? :P That's what people expect these days, I mean, the fact the Wii didn't play DVD's is shocking....and its more expensive than a 360 that does, so no real excuse now..

Now you seem to be sterotyping, how on earth does Sony squeeze money from its customers? If anything its the best value. The 360 charges for Live and has expensive accessories, the Wii's controllers cost a fortune, as well as classic controlers on top of that, balance boards, etc?

The PS3 has a Blu Ray Player (zomggggg, maybe not everyone's cup of tea but have you seen the price of a standard player on its own? Nuff said) Then the included Hard Drive (easy to swap with other standard laptop HDD's) Sony could have made a basic games system far cheaper but instead they pushed tech and made something really awesome. When a game does take advantage of blu ray its jaw-dropping.

Sorry, I don't understand your next point about the DSi. Personally I don't mind it, it has tacked on features I personally wouldn't want but its a nice upgrade for people that don't already own one. Same with the upgraded PSP models, there's no reason for current owners to upgrade but its a nice bonus to those that buy for the first time :) ne?

I agree, handhelds are cheaper and easier to make games for, and I'd be the first to admit that the PSP is lacking in the games department (For about 5 months you'll be in heaven, then it'll gather dust, hopefully this will change soon)

My main problem with the DS is A - shovelware and B - Poor graphics and touch controlls, in most games at least.

So going back to your previous post....*tries to read*

Mario Kart was designed with the motion controlls, all in all, they're useless, if you want to play properly with any accuracy at least. There's nothing too special or redeeming about it either, I mean it wasn't as exciting as other games in the series.

Well ask anyone that bought brawl. Most would agree that they got bored fairly quickly, we all played Melee to death and soon grew bored of this. Clone characters, over-powered items and a really annoying single player made me tire of it, I actually had to get my brother to beat single player for me, I couldn't stand it, it felt really tacked on.

Galaxy was bad because I don't like Mario :P tis why I gave you points, all in all it was impressive.

Metroid 3 didn't really improve significantly from what I've played, it never managed to draw me in or really entice me to play.

Warioland was good but it doesn't quite meet a £40 retail standard. There's not enough replayability or features.

Warioware, the first wii game right? There hasn't been another? If so then it was pretty heh, shaky. It never picked up the pace enough, all the pauses telling me what position to take was just really annoying.

Fire Emblem just felt like a PS2 game, yeah it was good but I would't pay £30 for it at all.

Dr Mario...? I'm so uninterested I haven't researched it :I no comment.

Err...

All in all the Wii is not a system someone should consider buying if they aim to play a lot. I mean, people criticise the PS3's lack of choice, but look at the Wii's in comparison, I'd say the PS3 is better, not only that but it gains Multi-platform releases too. Something the Wii really needs methinks.

7Force
03-02-2009, 00:01
*shlap*

Puh-leeze :/ my brother was at the point of building a mario shrine and even he's got his Wii in a corner gathering dust. I honestly don't know anyone that actually plays it day-to-day :P funny watching all the nintendo fans quietly shift over to other platforms
I play mine nearly everyday at one point i played it more then my 360. there are gamers out there who like the Wii and play it non stop.

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 00:05
I like Brawl better than Melee. And where's clone characters? I only see Toon Link. Don't you dare to say Ganondorf/Captain Falcon, Mario/Luigi, Lucas/Ness or the Star Fox characters. If you do so, you have NO idea of that game. Because Special attacks and Final Smashes are not everything on a character.

I love Galaxy. Innovative, fun, great game.

I play Mario Kart Wii with the GC-Controller, but found the idea of the steering wheel great. Also, I like it pretty good. It's imo FAR better than Double Dash!!, my least favourite of the series.

Metroid Prime 3 is FAR better than Metroid Prime 2. Freaking Ridley in a pipe. That's SO frigging cool!

Wario Land and WarioWare are great games, and see, you even agree with me.

I play a lot on my Wii - not only Nintendo-games, but also third party ones. So it is aimed for people who enjoy many hours of gameplay. I never would get me a PS3 because it just hasn't the game choices I'd like to have. And XBox... as said, only Eternal Sonata really interests me. The other stuff... meh.

Besides, the PS2 has more choice because it's FRIGGIN OLD by now. But at least you don't deny there was shovelware, too.

I think the Wii is a great console. But I won't deny the power of the PS3. Though what you should see is that not only the Wii lacks in good games, but generally the whole home console market does. There are so few games I'm interested in to come out soon.

The DS is what makes the market in the current time. It's the strongest console in this generation and gets many popular game releases, remakes and ports.
And because you don't like the touchscreen it doesn't mean everyone else thinks so, too. And just because the DS has shovelware... well, let's just say some for the PSP, right? Tony Hawk, NBA Live, NHL,...

DarkFlak
03-02-2009, 00:09
I am happy with it at the moment because Animal crossing is keeping me entertained but it could be soo mucb better... I really hope Nintendo realise what the Wii needs for 2009. >.>

Dr Shaneman
03-02-2009, 00:11
Is this just Rayne and Reknoc vs the net again?

Gavvie
03-02-2009, 00:16
Sorry, I don't understand your next point about the DSi. Personally I don't mind it, it has tacked on features I personally wouldn't want but its a nice upgrade for people that don't already own one. Same with the upgraded PSP models, there's no reason for current owners to upgrade but its a nice bonus to those that buy for the first time :) ne?

As I said beforehand, the DSi has tacked on features at the expense of others. Sure, it's got bigger screens, and a camera, and a better microphone, but this is coming at the expense of visual quality of existing DS games, and the complete removal of features that many DS owners would've liked to have.

Personally, I feel the DSi will fail purely because the lack of GBA port. It means that the GBA is now completely dead as the DS no longer supports playback of it's titles. The removal of the slot also means that the Guitar Hero games already on DS, as well as future titles soon to be released, aren't compatible. Nor is Tony Hawk's Motion, though that isn't a big loss because that's meant to be crap.

Let's also remember that the DSi is going to have DSi specific software, which may include games. So the DS upgrade's games aren't going to be compatible with the older models.

All in all, Nintendo are blatently after the money with this new model, and there's no conceivable way anybody can defend them on it. It's like if they made a HD version of the Wii (rumoured quite often), and decided that, even though old Wii games would work, they'd re-release them in HD, so that you'd have to pay premium prices for them and get all the new benefits.

...Oh wait, they've already done that. It's the New Play Control! range of GC games. Hmm...

7Force
03-02-2009, 00:20
I know I’m happy with the Wii because we will be getting Sin & Punishment 2.:)


@Sherlock I agree with you on the Wii games. Galaxy is up there on my best games ever list, Mario Kart Wii is great with a GC-Controller
though the wheel was a nice idea and a good way to help noobs get the grip of things, Metroid Prime 3

is awesome this is how a FPS game on the Wii should be like Retro Studios nailed it. SSBB is one of the best fighters I’ve played in a long time and the Wario series is just genius.


Is this just Rayne and Reknoc vs the net again?
its like Soulja Boy vs Screwattack only betterXD

Rayne
03-02-2009, 00:57
its like Soulja Boy vs Screwattack only betterXD

Lol, dude, I so ain't Soulja >_> and Reknoc hasn't said anything yet, I dread to imagine what he'll come up with.

Anyway, I must go, but I look forward to answering some of those points soon :P

Dr Shaneman
03-02-2009, 15:55
Lol, dude, I so ain't Soulja >_> and Reknoc hasn't said anything yet, I dread to imagine what he'll come up with.

Anyway, I must go, but I look forward to answering some of those points soon :P
Fixed.
I've got my tool belt on ready.

Reknoc
03-02-2009, 19:14
Sorry all of that was tl;dr





So just gonna say the Wii is pretty crap and pointless, apart from a much better Resident Evil 4 and Metroid Prime 3 using the controls pretty well, everything else pretty much sucks and could have been on the Gamecube.

That said, I respect Nintendo releasing a console for the masses, and with that I actually don't have a problem with the Waggle GC games Nintendo are releasing since Pikmin was a classic that didn't get the attention it deserved.

WAIT! I just have to quote this:

@Sherlock I agree with you on the Wii games. Galaxy is up there on my best games ever list, Mario Kart Wii is great with a GC-Controller

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Galaxy is great yes, but Wii features are awful. Oh and yes, Mario Kart Wii would have been better on GC (though I prefer using the WiiWheel because I didn't buy a GC game).

Rayne
03-02-2009, 19:18
I like Brawl better than Melee. And where's clone characters? I only see Toon Link. Don't you dare to say Ganondorf/Captain Falcon, Mario/Luigi, Lucas/Ness or the Star Fox characters. If you do so, you have NO idea of that game. Because Special attacks and Final Smashes are not everything on a character.

I love Galaxy. Innovative, fun, great game.

I play Mario Kart Wii with the GC-Controller, but found the idea of the steering wheel great. Also, I like it pretty good. It's imo FAR better than Double Dash!!, my least favourite of the series.

Metroid Prime 3 is FAR better than Metroid Prime 2. Freaking Ridley in a pipe. That's SO frigging cool!

Wario Land and WarioWare are great games, and see, you even agree with me.

I play a lot on my Wii - not only Nintendo-games, but also third party ones. So it is aimed for people who enjoy many hours of gameplay. I never would get me a PS3 because it just hasn't the game choices I'd like to have. And XBox... as said, only Eternal Sonata really interests me. The other stuff... meh.

Besides, the PS2 has more choice because it's FRIGGIN OLD by now. But at least you don't deny there was shovelware, too.

I think the Wii is a great console. But I won't deny the power of the PS3. Though what you should see is that not only the Wii lacks in good games, but generally the whole home console market does. There are so few games I'm interested in to come out soon.

The DS is what makes the market in the current time. It's the strongest console in this generation and gets many popular game releases, remakes and ports.
And because you don't like the touchscreen it doesn't mean everyone else thinks so, too. And just because the DS has shovelware... well, let's just say some for the PSP, right? Tony Hawk, NBA Live, NHL,...

SSMB does have many clone characters, many reviews and players admit it. If not clone characters then characters so similar there's no point in using them. Over-powered characters are also a huge problem, Ike can pwn anyone, it takes the skill away...of course I may randomly hit one of the hundreds of insta-kill items and get away with it, so skill really isn't a factor :P

Double Dash was an awesome game :P anyway, the inclusion of stunts was annoying, nintendo nerds exploit everything which is annoying. It was a huge anti-climax really, motion controls are funny but useless.

I'd disagree, Metroid is a horrid FPS >_> though of course...Wii owners wouldn't know the difference (Lawl, joke joke...ish)

I by no means said they were great. Warioware was great, last gen. Its old and tired now, I get bored doing the same mini-games on a different skin. Warioland was decent, but not special enough to gain thaaat much merit.

Well what sort of games are you in too? Prejudice aside :/ the best efforts I make, I have a few Wii games but the choice is much larger on the Xbox, and equal on PS3. The PS3 has like a few astounding games wheras the 360 has hundreds of good games but nothing groundbreaking.

Yes yes, its ancient :D and still going strong, what a legacy right enough. I'm drowning in awesome PS2 games at the moment.

Again I would disagree, I mean..look at the racks in a game store, right? The 360 has hundreds, PS3 has a good few and the Wii has hundreds. There's no shortage of games, there's just a shortage of people willing to try them out.

I've never liked the Wii's motion controls, they were always inaccurate (I have shaky hands) and a bit of a fuss, I can't chill out when I'm forced to waggle my way to victory, you know?

The PSP has shovelware, every system does. But nowhere near the ammount that the DS has. The games you quoted are all sports games, if your a sports fan then chances are they're quality titles. I can appriciate them but wouldn't buy them :) The DS's graphics are just so grainy I struggle to see properly and most games I play seem to put touch controls in just for the sake of putting them in, they feel forced to include them.

...Oh wait, they've already done that. It's the New Play Control! range of GC games. Hmm...

Don't even start me on that, that's the most shameless thing I've ever seen >_> 'Here you go! A $8 for $40!'

Reknoc
03-02-2009, 19:30
I'd disagree, Metroid is a horrid FPS >_> though of course...Console owners wouldn't know the difference (Lawl, joke joke...ish)Fixed that for you.

Edit: Also not sure what the DSi has to do with anything.

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 20:19
Ike? Are you seriously trying to tell me IKE would rape anyone? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That was a good laugh. Thank you. =D

Ike, by the way, is Low Tier. Just mentioning that one. He can be good online, but offline he sucks balls.

Also, I REALLY enjoy Metroid Prime - especially Prime 3. And that from someone who - GASP! - plays FPS competetively in online clans! Or at least did. I'm looking back on a history of being one of the Top 5 German-speaking players of Quake 3 Arena, and among the Top 40 European players overall.

But right, I have NO idea about FPS. I suck. =)

Dr Shaneman
03-02-2009, 20:19
Fixed that for you.

Edit: Also not sure what the DSi has to do with anything.
I like that fix.

Rayne
03-02-2009, 20:25
Ike? Are you seriously trying to tell me IKE would rape anyone? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That was a good laugh. Thank you. =D

Ike, by the way, is Low Tier. Just mentioning that one. He can be good online, but offline he sucks balls.

Also, I REALLY enjoy Metroid Prime - especially Prime 3. And that from someone who - GASP! - plays FPS competetively in online clans! Or at least did. I'm looking back on a history of being one of the Top 5 German-speaking players of Quake 3 Arena, and among the Top 40 European players overall.

But right, I have NO idea about FPS. I suck. =)

Yup, I could kick your ass with him blindfolded :P all he needs is one decent hit and that's you dead. Compare him to the astounding Sonic >_> wow....one whole move.

Metriod never played properly...they went from a perfect formula to a fecked up 3d mixed bag. Backtracking, no direction and iffy controls of course make a game fantastic :D

Lol :P how many german players are there? Again, I joke. I also hate PC gaming but I'll not start :P

Nice to see you ignore allll my other points! >_< /

Dr Shaneman
03-02-2009, 20:28
Nice to see you ignore allll my other points! >_< /
We try our best.
PC gaming is best for FPS game in my opinion. Always has been.
Also, Metroid did what Sonic did. It's allergic to 3D so it sneezes all over it.

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 20:35
No you don't and no he doesn't. You clearly have no idea about Brawl, otherwise you wouldn't blabber such bullshit.
Clone characters and "no point in using them"... are you kidding? Hell, even in Melee, where the cloning was even MORE obvious as the moves were LITERALLY the same, the two tightest clones - Fox and Falco - were played completely different than the others. Brawl's even MORE apparent in differing the "clones" to the point where no character has the absolute same moves.
"BUT FOX WOLF AND FALCO ALL HAVE LANDMASTER AS FINAL SMASH THEY MUST BE CLONES". Uh huh. Sure are.
Sonic, btw., is even worse than Ike. I don't count online play as valid argument due to its lag - it's all totally different offline.

But w/e, believe what you want to believe.

German speaking =/= German
These count in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourgh, Liechtenstein, Southern Tyrolia (Italy) and some of Belgium.

The others were too dumb for me to respond to, sorry, because all you say is personal opinion.

Same goes for Reknoc.

You won't take away the joy I have with my Wii, no matter how much you ramble and preach your personal opinions and say the Wii sucks.
I love it. I love the games I have for it. And you won't make me like them less.

Reknoc
03-02-2009, 20:36
Metriod never played properly...they went from a perfect formula to a fecked up 3d mixed bag. Backtracking, no direction and iffy controls of course make a game fantastic :D

Metroid never changed its formula just its perspective, First Person view point doesn't mean the game is a FPS.

Lol :P how many german players are there? Again, I joke. I also hate PC gaming but I'll not start :P


Alot.

Rayne
03-02-2009, 20:44
Good for you :P more power too you.

In 6 months time when there's nothing worth buying though XD we'll see

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 20:46
In 6 months time when there's nothing worth buying though XD we'll see

Klonoa Remake, Castlevania Judgment... And I'm playing Brawl almost a year now, and still love playing it.
I've been playing Melee 7 years and still love playing it (now and then, since I like Brawl better).

Rayne
03-02-2009, 20:51
Klonoa Remake, Castlevania Judgment... And I'm playing Brawl almost a year now, and still love playing it.
I've been playing Melee 7 years and still love playing it (now and then, since I like Brawl better).

If judgement turns out to be good, I'll forever hang up my controller and woship you as a godess :) mind you, the idea of alucard laying the smackdown on everthing is fairly attractive.

Please elaborate on how the clone characters are different? :/ in a way so drastic that it changes the average gamer's experience?

As for validity I think the sports point was valid, the clone characters, re-released gamecube games, avaliability of decent games in comparison to other platforms and the DS being forced to use touch controls :3

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 21:04
If judgement turns out to be good, I'll forever hang up my controller and woship you as a godess

God, please. Thank you.

Also, YOU will probably hate it. But that's only because you hate everything.

Please elaborate on how the clone characters are different? :/ in a way so drastic that it changes the average gamer's experience?

Yes. In a way so drastic that it changes the average/casual gamer's experience.

Let's take the beloved Star Fox characters since everyone rambles about them being oh so cloney. The only thing all three have in common is that they're fast fallers and have similar (!) Special Attacks.

Fox is the fastest. All of his attacks are. His lasers don't do any knockback. He's otherwise pretty low-ranged.
Falco is the middle (speedwise). His lasers stun and do little knockback. He jumps frigging high. He kicks his reflector instead of having it close to his body and only a few attacks (Down Smash, Down Tilt, Up Smash) look similar to Fox'.
Wolf is the slowest. His standard attacks all are ABSOLUTELY different to Fox' and Falco's. His Up- and Side Specials look and work differently, he's the medium jumper of the three. His gun can be used as a melee weapon, and his blaster does some knockback, too. And his reflector is rather laggy.

But as said, the three play totally different.

Reknoc
03-02-2009, 21:06
Yea Rayne stop hating everything, what is wrong with you? Jeez.

*Doesn't expect Castelvania Judgement to be any good, but it looks like a fun button masher*

Rayne
03-02-2009, 21:16
God, please. Thank you.

Also, YOU will probably hate it. But that's only because you hate everything.

Yes. In a way so drastic that it changes the average/casual gamer's experience.

Let's take the beloved Star Fox characters since everyone rambles about them being oh so cloney. The only thing all three have in common is that they're fast fallers and have similar (!) Special Attacks.

Fox is the fastest. All of his attacks are. His lasers don't do any knockback. He's otherwise pretty low-ranged.
Falco is the middle (speedwise). His lasers stun and do little knockback. He jumps frigging high. He kicks his reflector instead of having it close to his body and only a few attacks (Down Smash, Down Tilt, Up Smash) look similar to Fox'.
Wolf is the slowest. His standard attacks all are ABSOLUTELY different to Fox' and Falco's. His Up- and Side Specials look and work differently, he's the medium jumper of the three. His gun can be used as a melee weapon, and his blaster does some knockback, too. And his reflector is rather laggy.

But as said, the three play totally different.

Nothing could be further from the truth :P we just never talk about the things I like.

Still joo ignore the pointz D: but oki, whatever.

Yeah I noticed they had different blasts, but no one I know ever bothers using them as they do so little damage, we just smack each other. The reflectors are slightly different but in the end it just makes the other characters worse than Fox :P

The Wii is fun no doubt, I do enjoy it with a few mates, but that's as far as it goes. Blasting zombies on HOTD is a riot but only for so long, I soon find myself struggling to find titles, you know?

I don't own a DS anymore, it was my third one and I got fed up so decided to forever stick with a PSP >_> I never really play handhelds anyway as I rarely go on long journeys.

I've always liked the PS3, mainly because its the underdog, that and MGS4 was the best gaming experience I've ever had :P I've been a Sony boy most of the time, I switched back from Xbox after the 360 err....well...after the 360 became the 360 ><

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 21:22
Yeah I noticed they had different blasts, but no one I know ever bothers using them as they do so little damage, we just smack each other. The reflectors are slightly different but in the end it just makes the other characters worse than Fox

Ahahahaha. Fox is the worst out of the three. Just fyi.

Or, take a more obvious example: Would you say that Ike and Marth are clones? Because, that's what they basically are, if you say the Space Animals are clones. Similar Special attacks and Final Smashes, both have a sword as weapon, and they even are from the same franchise!
Yet if you play Ike like you would play Marth or vice versa, you'd pretty much be screwed. A lot. Same applies to any other "clone" out there, of which only Toon Link is the actual REAL clone, having the same moves as Link with a few exceptions - and even he plays totally different to Regular Link.

But of course, a "Sony boy", as you call yourself, can only hate over the Wii. Usual. Otherwise you wouldn't be a "Sony boy". Right? That's the sense of your life. Only pissing onto everything which isn't on a Sony console.

Edit: And I don't ignore your "points". I only ignore your personal opinions, because they are no facts. Period.

Rayne
03-02-2009, 21:40
Ahahahaha. Fox is the worst out of the three. Just fyi.

Or, take a more obvious example: Would you say that Ike and Marth are clones? Because, that's what they basically are, if you say the Space Animals are clones. Similar Special attacks and Final Smashes, both have a sword as weapon, and they even are from the same franchise!
Yet if you play Ike like you would play Marth or vice versa, you'd pretty much be screwed. A lot. Same applies to any other "clone" out there, of which only Toon Link is the actual REAL clone, having the same moves as Link with a few exceptions - and even he plays totally different to Regular Link.

But of course, a "Sony boy", as you call yourself, can only hate over the Wii. Usual. Otherwise you wouldn't be a "Sony boy". Right? That's the sense of your life. Only pissing onto everything which isn't on a Sony console.

Edit: And I don't ignore your "points". I only ignore your personal opinions, because they are no facts. Period.

So by that token, all sports games are crap then? That'd seem to be your opinion.

And no, I own a Wii, Playstation and Xbox, in my opinion the playstation is the better of the three. If I hated the others I wouldn't own them, obviously. Every console has its merits and its natural for people to have their personal fave. Look at you, I doubt you'd ever look on a 360 or Playstation with a fair and unbias view :P

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 21:47
No, but almost all of them - in my opinion.

If I want to play football or tennis, I don't play it on a console but go outside and do it - except it's a bit different like Mario Tennis or something. Because, y'know, I can't turn the ball into a blazing sphere of flames.

I see no sense in playing that stuff on a console.

But that's my own opinion. In my opinion, sports games are usually crap I don't want to play.

And I acknowledge the other consoles a lot, they just don't offer things I'm interested in. I know and never denied that the PS3 has the best hardware interior, but that still doesn't change the fact I don't want to buy it because - in my personal opinion, and not as a fact - it has no games which would REALLY warrant a buy for me.

Rayne
03-02-2009, 21:56
No, but almost all of them - in my opinion.

If I want to play football or tennis, I don't play it on a console but go outside and do it - except it's a bit different like Mario Tennis or something. Because, y'know, I can't turn the ball into a blazing sphere of flames.

I see no sense in playing that stuff on a console.

But that's my own opinion. In my opinion, sports games are usually crap I don't want to play.

And I acknowledge the other consoles a lot, they just don't offer things I'm interested in. I know and never denied that the PS3 has the best hardware interior, but that still doesn't change the fact I don't want to buy it because - in my personal opinion, and not as a fact - it has no games which would REALLY warrant a buy for me.

Progress XD

No I agree with sports game, I've never been a fan and I don't want to play £40 for something I can do outside for free. Sega Tennis, Pure, there's a few exceptions but I'm not into NFL...Fifa...etc etc.

And yeah, as do I. The wii doesn't offer enough for me to really make me play it. I don't game as much as I used to, so if my console will store movies and keep music then its a bonus.

Personally, I don't see the wii offering value for money and I don't see it being innovative. So it doesn't get much of my time.

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 22:16
Progress XD

wtf...?

Are you now implying I was the one who was like that?

Was I the one who said Mario Galaxy is crap because I don't like Mario?
Was I the one who said Metroid Prime 3 is crap because I don't like the overall concept of Metroid?

No, that was you.

I was giving you examples of very well recieved games - and yes, Brawl was well recieved - and you said they were shit because you didn't like them. YOU DID. NOT ME.

Stop putting stuff into my mouth, seriously.

But w/e. I'm done with this "discussion".

Rayne
03-02-2009, 22:19
wtf...?

Are you now implying I was the one who was like that?

Was I the one who said Mario Galaxy is crap because I don't like Mario?
Was I the one who said Metroid Prime 3 is crap because I don't like the overall concept of Metroid?

No, that was you.

I was giving you examples of very well recieved games - and yes, Brawl was well recieved - and you said they were shit because you didn't like them. YOU DID. NOT ME.

Stop putting stuff into my mouth, seriously.

But w/e. I'm done with this "discussion".

Course I said that :cool: but I never said it was fact. You judge too quickly :3

Sherlock
03-02-2009, 22:26
You treated it like a fact. You used the terms "nobody" and "everybody".

If nobody likes the Wii and the games on it, then why are 3 of the Top 5 selling games this year Wii titles (Mario Kart Wii best selling, Wii Fit #2, Brawl #4)? Then why is the Wii the strongest (home) console on the market?

If everybody hates playing on the Wii because the games suck, then why am I playing on it? Why are several people on this and many other boards playing on it? Why is the console STILL the #1 console seller on the market? Why are the WiFi-servers overloaded with people playing?

LeeMan00
03-02-2009, 23:06
Am I happy? I'll speak for myself on this: the only time I've played it recently was to play Brawl for a few matches, but that's when I have friends around, not alone or online. (Not my most used console.)

Gavvie
04-02-2009, 22:47
I've only ever played my Wii online once, and that was Mario Strikers Charged Football against Reknoc. Can't say I was all too impressed to be honest, was very laggy.

Probably doesn't help that the game wasn't up to much either.

Reknoc
04-02-2009, 23:10
I've only ever played my Wii online once, and that was Mario Strikers Charged Football against Reknoc. Can't say I was all too impressed to be honest, was very laggy.

Probably doesn't help that the game wasn't up to much either.

Woah what? Mario Strikers Charged was an awesome game.

Gavvie
04-02-2009, 23:11
There wasn't a lot to do though after the three single player cups. It was definately a multiplayer game.

Reknoc
04-02-2009, 23:14
There wasn't a lot to do though after the three single player cups. It was definately a multiplayer game.

Yea but atleast it didn't suck when there was stuff to do, unlike every other football game.

Gavvie
04-02-2009, 23:15
Yeah, I guess. Only having 8 playable Captains was a bit pants as well, considering how many characters there are in the Mario universe.

Reknoc
04-02-2009, 23:17
Yeah, I guess. Only having 8 playable Captains was a bit pants as well, considering how many characters there are in the Mario universe.

Yea but I guess they wanted to keep it to a decent number so that each one felt different. Still not as good as the other Mario sports game though.

Gavvie
04-02-2009, 23:30
I guess, even though Mario and Luigi were near as dammit clones of each other.

7Force
04-02-2009, 23:32
Woah what? Mario Strikers Charged was an awesome game.
I agree with Reknoc I enjoyed it a lot but the single player was hard, I think it was down to that fact I'm crap at football games and hate the and the sport itself. I only really play this in multiplayer.

The only football games I liked were this and Sensible Soccer.

Reknoc
04-02-2009, 23:35
I guess, even though Mario and Luigi were near as dammit clones of each other.

Pretty much how it should be. :D

Just want to point out I've never once said the Wii features are any good. I'm sure the GC version is just as good if not better.

Gavvie
04-02-2009, 23:44
Yeah, it's a good game, and I'm glad I bought it. I just wish there was a bit more substance to it, because I remember trying to play it a month or two ago and it bored me very quickly.

Sherlock
05-02-2009, 17:00
Wut, Mario Strikers Charged has 12 captains. Oo

Gavvie
05-02-2009, 21:15
Really? I'm probably thinking of the GC version then, did that one have 8?

Sherlock
05-02-2009, 22:20
Really? I'm probably thinking of the GC version then, did that one have 8?

Not really. It had 9, with one special captain (those silly robots). But 8 Mario characters, yes.

Dr Shaneman
05-02-2009, 22:23
Not really. It had 9, with one special captain (those silly robots). But 8 Mario characters, yes.
I honestly didn't get that. Bowser's super team was a bunch of robots... What?

Sherlock
05-02-2009, 22:25
I honestly didn't get that. Bowser's super team was a bunch of robots... What?

Should have been the Koopalings. =(

Reknoc
05-02-2009, 22:25
So why y'all talking 'bout a GC game in a Wii thread?

One thing I'm happy about is the VC console, it gets quite frequent quality updates. No wednesdays with overpriced R.Types on the Wii.

Dr Shaneman
05-02-2009, 22:56
Should have been the Koopalings. =(
Would have actually made sense.

Gavvie
05-02-2009, 23:16
Mm.

So, anybody looking forward to any potential Wii announcements at E3? I'm expecting to see a new Zelda and Mario, at least.

Reknoc
05-02-2009, 23:21
Mm.

So, anybody looking forward to any potential Wii announcements at E3? I'm expecting to see a new Zelda and Mario, at least.

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing more charts and Miyamoto giving everyone the finger.

Gavvie
05-02-2009, 23:25
If Miyamoto gave everybody the finger, the universe would collapse in on himself.

Especially if he had that creepy grin he always seems to have.

Reknoc
05-02-2009, 23:26
If Miyamoto gave everybody the finger, the universe would collapse in on himself.

Especially if he had that creepy grin he always seems to have.

The Wiimote was pretty much designed based on Miyamoto's middle finger.

Sherlock
05-02-2009, 23:31
The Wiimote was pretty much designed based on Miyamoto's middle finger.

I'm very VERY tempted to sig that line.

Gavvie
05-02-2009, 23:45
That actually makes me wonder just how large his hand must be if that's his middle finger.

Is the nunchuk his thumb or something?

Rayne
05-02-2009, 23:57
I'm hoping for a new IP...just, something innovative, for once :P I'd love it. See Okami? See that piece of gaming awesomeness? Do something as original and beautiful as that please -_-

I'm probably expecting a new Zelda? I was discussing this with P_Nut, we figured Link needs to die in the next Zelda game and we need a new hero and villian...

I want them to do a MM9, create a drastically new Wii Zelda game and a traditional Zelda game for VC :)

Dr Shaneman
06-02-2009, 00:01
Mm.

So, anybody looking forward to any potential Wii announcements at E3? I'm expecting to see a new Zelda and Mario, at least.
They'll probably just boast about that new remote.

7Force
06-02-2009, 00:03
I'm very VERY tempted to sig that line.
Reknoc at his best once again.:biggrin:

Sherlock
06-02-2009, 00:10
I'm probably expecting a new Zelda? I was discussing this with P_Nut, we figured Link needs to die in the next Zelda game and we need a new hero and villian...

Die? And why a new villain? Ganondorf is awesome. =(

But you know, I'd even pay 100 bucks for a game I've thought of and would be SO awesome. It's a spy-shooter thingie like Thief or Splinter Cell, just playing in Hyrule featuring Sheik as the playable character... Ninja skillz, man!

You'd be infiltrating the temples or the bases of Ganondorf, assassinating enemies, crawling around on walls... God I WANT such a game!!

Rayne
06-02-2009, 00:14
Die? And why a new villain? Ganondorf is awesome. =(

But you know, I'd even pay 100 bucks for a game I've thought of and would be SO awesome. It's a spy-shooter thingie like Thief or Splinter Cell, just playing in Hyrule featuring Sheik as the playable character... Ninja skillz, man!

You'd be infiltrating the temples or the bases of Ganondorf, assassinating enemies, crawling around on walls... God I WANT such a game!!

There is such a game, its called thief :P

But that's the sort of thing I'm talking about, a radical departure of what they're making now. It would struggle to seperate itself from PoP, Theif, Assassin's Creed, etc. But Sheik was the coolest Zelda character ever, so it'd totally work -_-

Gannon is a good villan, but he's been around too long, time to let go :( Make Link die heroically in a twist at the end of the game and continue it in the future (like Wind Waker, it wasn't THE Link, you know?)

Sherlock
06-02-2009, 00:28
There is such a game, its called thief :P

Read the above post, dumbass. You would've seen I mentioned Thief up there. Besides I doubt it plays in Hyrule and I also doubt it has Sheik as the main character.

Gannon is a good villan, but he's been around too long, time to let go :(

http://www.gannon-banned.com/#gannon

And no, I think Ganon(dorf) is a great villain. Definitely better than Bowser.

Rayne
06-02-2009, 00:36
Read the above post, dumbass. You would've seen I mentioned Thief up there. Besides I doubt it plays in Hyrule and I also doubt it has Sheik as the main character.

My my, someone's fairly aggresive :/ chill out m'dear, t'was a joke. Anyway, Its what the series needs, even although it would be panned by critics and fans XD I would enjoy playing through it, hell, go the whole hog and make him able to jack horses, put some GTA in there :P it would be really rather fun.

That's because bowser is a cranky tortoise that's been hit with a stapler :/ Gannon is good, but its hard to take him seriously. In fact, its hard to bother killing him when you know he'll be ressurected again at the next E3 :P

Sherlock
06-02-2009, 00:56
Gannon is good

HIS NAME IS GANON NOT GANNON STOP POSTING 2 NS ON PURPOSE.

GOD. This annoys me SO MUCH.

SuperMatt723
06-02-2009, 05:10
Im actually very excited for this year on the Wii. Recently ive gotten a 360 and i find that i spent a lot of time playing that. But this year some promising games are coming out like house of the dead which looks awesome, Madworld looks to be very unique, Deadly creatures which i want to check out, and Punch out. also, aparently, theres a rumor of a sidescrolling sonic Wii game so i want to hear more on that.


This year i will be satisfied.

perfectchaos
06-02-2009, 12:06
Honestly, ever since SSBB came out, there really doesn't seem to be anything that interests me. Nintendo really needs to make some new games. The Wii was awesome in 2007 but after Brawl came out, there really hasn't been anything... except maybe Mario Kart Wii. In terms of third parties, Sonic Unleashed was pretty good though. Hopefully Nintendo releases some good stuff because I've been losing my interest in games for a while now =/ ( the music's still good :) )

Reknoc
06-02-2009, 19:26
Die? And why a new villain? Ganondorf is awesome. =(

But you know, I'd even pay 100 bucks for a game I've thought of and would be SO awesome. It's a spy-shooter thingie like Thief or Splinter Cell, just playing in Hyrule featuring Sheik as the playable character... Ninja skillz, man!

You'd be infiltrating the temples or the bases of Ganondorf, assassinating enemies, crawling around on walls... God I WANT such a game!!

I'd play the shit out of that, but only if the Kokiri's acted like the Pegans and the Gorons like the Hammers.

"First thou eateth the rock then thou praticeth the sumo"

Rayne
06-02-2009, 20:05
HIS NAME IS GANON NOT GANNON STOP POSTING 2 NS ON PURPOSE.

GOD. This annoys me SO MUCH.

That's how I spell it, tough pancakes :P

Sherlock
06-02-2009, 20:24
That's how I spell it, tough pancakes :P

Fine, next time I read a "Gannon" instead of a "Ganon" from you, you'll get an infraction for poor spelling. Deal? Great. =)

Rayne
06-02-2009, 21:30
Fine, next time I read a "Gannon" instead of a "Ganon" from you, you'll get an infraction for poor spelling. Deal? Great. =)

Whateverz, I gots no f33r XD

Should totaly be spelled Gannon >_> the two N's are like....the key to power, a single n just makes his name look like a backwater scottish child. Much like myself.

Dr Shaneman
06-02-2009, 21:48
f33r
I could do you for leet speak, it's very hated on this forum.
Tip for Rayne: Learn to shut up, don't keep going just to wind the person up. If I find my posts are annoying someone, I'll stop.

Rayne
06-02-2009, 22:21
I could do you for leet speak, it's very hated on this forum.
Tip for Rayne: Learn to shut up, don't keep going just to wind the person up. If I find my posts are annoying someone, I'll stop.

I don't speek leet, I don't know what it means D: I'll learn if I stick around on those Xbox forums though, sheesh.

For me it seemed like a bit of banter, if it was aggresive then I'll appologise, sorry Sherlock -_-

Back on topic, We played Wii baseball whilst blindfolded the other day. Imagine that Jedi training thing from star wars, but more epic.

Reknoc
06-02-2009, 22:23
I don't speek leet, I don't know what it means D: I'll learn if I stick around on those Xbox forums though, sheesh.

For me it seemed like a bit of banter, if it was aggresive then I'll appologise, sorry Sherlock -_-

That was clearly on purpose.

Dr Shaneman
06-02-2009, 22:24
I don't speek leet, I don't know what it means D: I'll learn if I stick around on those Xbox forums though, sheesh.

For me it seemed like a bit of banter, if it was aggresive then I'll appologise, sorry Sherlock -_-

Back on topic, We played Wii baseball whilst blindfolded the other day. Imagine that Jedi training thing from star wars, but more epic.
Tip 2: If you say crap to Reknoc no one will even blink so...

Rayne
06-02-2009, 22:31
Tip 2: If you say crap to Reknoc no one will even blink so...

Hehe, that's what MSN is for ;) Pepperami noodles? Reknoc is clearly distrubed.

And no, it wasn't :P I'm a bad speller at the best of times, and I type like a whirlwind as I have about 5 MSN conversations at once

Kaito-kun
06-02-2009, 22:31
Back on topic, We played Wii baseball whilst blindfolded the other day. Imagine that Jedi training thing from star wars, but more epic.
I'm soooooo trying that tomorrow.

Tip 2: If you say crap to Reknoc no one will even blink so...
Whoo! A blank cheque for mayhem!

Reknoc
06-02-2009, 22:32
Hehe, that's what MSN is for ;) Pepperami noodles? Reknoc is clearly distrubed.

And no, it wasn't :P I'm a bad speller at the best of times, and I type like a whirlwind as I have about 5 MSN conversations at once

Man Pepperami Noodles rock. It's like two of the best foods ever combined.

Dr Shaneman
06-02-2009, 22:33
Hehe, that's what MSN is for ;) Pepperami noodles? Reknoc is clearly distrubed.

And no, it wasn't :P I'm a bad speller at the best of times, and I type like a whirlwind as I have about 5 MSN conversations at once
Too many convo's = lack of work getting done for me.
Now, back on subject.

Rayne
06-02-2009, 22:33
I'm soooooo trying that tomorrow.

We need to try that on Multi-player :D its awesome, and you get the added bonus of watching each other look like a complete berk

Sherlock
06-02-2009, 22:44
We need to try that on Multi-player :D its awesome, and you get the added bonus of watching each other look like a complete berk

And ramming yourself Wiimotes into your face?

Rayne
06-02-2009, 22:50
And ramming yourself Wiimotes into your face?

No, its the rather pricey furnature and TV that's in danger :blush: I'd rather thwack my face than the 40" TV, Dead man walking.

Reknoc
06-02-2009, 22:52
I'm always smacking myself with the Wiimote. Though usually because I'm swinging it round with the wriststrap when a game's loading.

Gavvie
06-02-2009, 22:59
I've accidentally thrown mine against a chest of drawers before. Hit a smash shot on Wii Tennis, and the wrist strap broke.

Rayne
06-02-2009, 22:59
I'm always smacking myself with the Wiimote. Though usually because I'm swinging it round with the wriststrap when a game's loading.

I used to do that until it snapped >_< it flew right into my PS3

Dr Shaneman
07-02-2009, 00:15
I used to do that until it snapped >_< it flew right into my PS3
180!!!
You play darts?

Rayne
07-02-2009, 00:53
180!!!
You play darts?

Shaddup XD this ain't bullseye! My poor black box has a scratch now...T__T

No I don't play darts, I got banned from a pub on vacation for hitting someone >< my aim is horrid

SegaShinja
07-02-2009, 00:56
I'm really not happy with this generation in general. I can't get into any of the games for more than a couple of sessions of messing around. Though I will say that I really dig the rail shooter ports that Sega has put out for the Wii.

Wolf
07-02-2009, 10:47
I like my wii its really good i dont i hav any problems with it but i really want hardcore games like Madworld