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Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 18:33
OK, so this has been done on other forums and has worked so I'm hoping no ass holes will ruin this.
Gavvie said I could create this so here it is, a topic for mature discussion.

The first one subject should be the obvious choice, your thoughts on sex.

EDIT: Just thought I'd add this bit in. Obviously, because of the subject nature, we Staffers will be closely moderating this thread, and will not hesitate to issue Warnings and/or Infractions to any member who uses this thread as a means to break Forum Rules (namely posting porn/links to porn etc).

This thread is for mature discussion only, so keep all pictures and other content out. Thanks.

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 19:00
^ An example of a post I don't want in here.

mazonemayu
07-06-2009, 19:43
it wasn't to ridicule you m8, I just didn't want to type everything out, coz there's kids here too, so I put up the above (as I explained to gavvie)

but if it offends you or something, just delete it & I'll speak of it no more

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 19:46
Not offend, just pointless short post. Besides I put 18+ in the topic title so kids don't come in here. If they do, their own fault.

Mena
07-06-2009, 20:11
Thoughts on sex can be quite an expansive topic. Perhaps break it up and offer guidlines? Like what you think about abstaining till marriage, your first time, how mature you should be, what current law dictates about it etc. Just a bit more detail about what you expect from the thread so you don't get stuff like "I like it when Gav's hammering away from behind" :P

Gavvie
07-06-2009, 20:18
...Which she does, by the way XD

But yeah, being able to discuss things in greater detail would be great. I don't think we have to set any guidelines though. You people can discuss about as much or as little as you want, and shit.

I personally won't, however. I'll probably comment on other people's opinions, but I quite like my private life to remain private. Whether Mena wants to disclose it is another matter, however :p

Mena
07-06-2009, 20:32
...Which she does, by the way XD

Shut up ¬_¬

I personally won't, however. I'll probably comment on other people's opinions, but I quite like my private life to remain private. Whether Mena wants to disclose it is another matter, however :p

You might as well just talk about it yourself to save face :p

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 20:36
OK first subject then.
Japan banned it's rape material this week (in Anime and games) what's your view on this?
Personally, I think it'll start a mass Otaku rage on peoples front gardens.

Rayne
07-06-2009, 21:22
OK first subject then.
Japan banned it's rape material this week (in Anime and games) what's your view on this?
Personally, I think it'll start a mass Otaku rage on peoples front gardens.

Ah, now this is interesting.

I've no doubt it'll cause a rage in the Otaku hentai world and aside from stopping retail sales, I'd imagine the internet will still be crawling with rape material.

Personally I think that even though it's just a cartoon, people that view that sort of stuff get pleasure out of seeing someone tortured, abused and used. I find it all pretty sick, I'm surprised it's taken this long to be banned.

What's the news on Loli in Japan? In some respects that's almost worse, right?

[Also, not to cause trouble but does this need to be rated 18? I mean, everyone's going to look at it anyway, so long as no explicit material is posted like you say, it's really just a mature discussion]

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 21:47
[Also, not to cause trouble but does this need to be rated 18? I mean, everyone's going to look at it anyway, so long as no explicit material is posted like you say, it's really just a mature discussion]
It's to cover my back.

Anyway, loli is banned in the UK but not in Japan yet as far as I know.As for rape, it's a top seller. So I'm surprised it did get banned actually. We all some people love their tentacle monsters no?
This will be a big effect on the market that's for sure.

Gavvie
07-06-2009, 21:58
I really don't think I want to know the answer, but I really don't know what you're talking about. I've never understood all the different hentai terminologies.

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 22:19
I really don't think I want to know the answer, but I really don't know what you're talking about. I've never understood all the different hentai terminologies.
There's a lot of different types of rape when you go into the Hentai genre. Tentacle rape is concidered one of the most popular though.

Gavvie
07-06-2009, 22:35
I figured that one out, I remember the tentacle rape anime from a Channel 4 program I was watching a few years ago. It was detailing the Top 100 Animated Films/Programs of all time, and oddly enough it was on it.

Rayne
07-06-2009, 22:42
Loli is hentai involving young children, essentially cartoon paedophillia.

The top movie must have been (bad spelling) Urutsukidoji? Or something like that? I remember reading it was part of the underground anime movement, along with Ninja Scroll, Perfect Blue and...Akira?
(http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&hs=ws4&ei=FSYsSr_1LcagjAfe-42ACw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=paedophilia&spell=1)

7Force
07-06-2009, 23:34
I do know of the loli thing, years ago I just thought it was another form of hentai but found out what it was later after that. It’s quite shocking and I always wondered why people would be into that sort of thing. The same for rape hentai I know its popular and for the same reason as loli I just cant find out why some people love it. I guess its just some twisted fantasy they have.

I’m not a fan of hentai but I don’t blast people for liking it but if its stuff like rape or loli I have to question that persons mind. I have many friends who like hentai and one who likes yaoi but they all say they are not into the really into hardcore sex stuff they prefer to read ones where the sex is part of the story and essential to it and not just written in for people to get off on it. If they were handed a loli or rape hentai they would put it down in disgust.

Reknoc
07-06-2009, 23:43
The top movie must have been (bad spelling) Urutsukidoji? Or something like that? I remember reading it was part of the underground anime movement, along with Ninja Scroll, Perfect Blue and...Akira?


It probably was, infact back when Sci-Fi had anime on at ungodly hours of the morning I'd tape it all regardless and watched Legend of the Overfiend and remembered the scene where a giant tentacle penis busts through a skyscraper from when Channel 4 showed it back when they had those rad animation nights.

90% of what Sci-Fi aired was softcore hentai or just plain trash, which incidently was also 100% of what Manga Ent. would license and put on VHS way back when.

Rayne
07-06-2009, 23:51
I totally agree with 7th force. Everyone has weird hobbies and tastes, so I wouldn't condemn anyone for liking Hentai, but when it reaches those levels of content I think it needs to be questioned.

XD @ Rek, that's true. I guess back in those days animation wasn't exactly top-notch though, so you could have a giant penis attacking young girls, you'd have to squint to see what parts belonged to who. Now things can be so realistic with 3d, HD, whatever whatever it's more...real?

Gavvie
07-06-2009, 23:54
Ah, Legend of the Overfiend, that was it. Knew I'd remember the name when I saw it.

Dr Shaneman
07-06-2009, 23:58
I figured that one out, I remember the tentacle rape anime from a Channel 4 program I was watching a few years ago. It was detailing the Top 100 Animated Films/Programs of all time, and oddly enough it was on it.
I'll admit, I wanted to see the rest of it XD.
Also, Rek likes his penis monsters.

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 00:01
I totally agree with 7th force. Everyone has weird hobbies and tastes, so I wouldn't condemn anyone for liking Hentai, but when it reaches those levels of content I think it needs to be questioned.

XD @ Rek, that's true. I guess back in those days animation wasn't exactly top-notch though, so you could have a giant penis attacking young girls, you'd have to squint to see what parts belonged to who. Now things can be so realistic with 3d, HD, whatever whatever it's more...real?

There's not much difference to be honest, it's mostly censored and never veers to the too extreme in most "mainstream" hentai titles. Infact the censoreship was why Japan has so many tentacles; they were used as a way to get round some of the censorship.

Schezo
08-06-2009, 00:23
I do know of the loli thing, years ago I just thought it was another form of hentai but found out what it was later after that. It’s quite shocking and I always wondered why people would be into that sort of thing. The same for rape hentai I know its popular and for the same reason as loli I just cant find out why some people love it. I guess its just some twisted fantasy they have.
I can see how loli and rape themed anime/games is a way to keep people away from that kind of stuff in real life. It's a hell lot better for someone to watch animated 10 year old girls getting raped, than to actually go out to the park and kidnap some innocent child just to rape her in a nearby alley.

But at the same time it kind of feels like they're just feeding the trolls. Alot more people will probably turn that way if they're so overexposed to it all the time. Once they turn, it just becomes more popular, companies will produce more material, and more people will turn. A never-ending circle of evil. (it sounds like some kind of vampire/zombie movie...)

Mena
08-06-2009, 00:38
But at the same time it kind of feels like they're just feeding the trolls. Alot more people will probably turn that way if they're so overexposed to it all the time. Once they turn, it just becomes more popular, companies will produce more material, and more people will turn. A never-ending circle of evil. (it sounds like some kind of vampire/zombie movie...)

To me that just sounds like alot of Jack Thompson GTA shit, using entertainment as a scapegoat. I don't think just because you're exposed to it enough that you'd go looking for it. It's not as if people go jumping in oceans looking for an octopus to get raped by, right?

Dr Shaneman
08-06-2009, 00:41
To me that just sounds like alot of Jack Thompson GTA shit, using entertainment as a scapegoat. I don't think just because you're exposed to it enough that you'd go looking for it. It's not as if people go jumping in oceans looking for an octopus to get raped by, right?
Ever met an Otaku?

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 00:41
It's not as if people go jumping in oceans looking for an octopus to get raped by, right?

... Oh uh, no.

I don't really see how them playing it would make them do it? I mean these are adult games for adults, if a game influences them that much then they weren't right in the head to begin with. It's not even much training as it's hardly 1 to 1 interaction, unless you rape people by clicking mouse 1 alot.

Dr Shaneman
08-06-2009, 00:42
Well they blame GTA for some things...

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 00:43
I heard GTA shows a penis, they should ban this sick filth.

Rayne
08-06-2009, 00:45
The next natural step from watching Rape and Loli vids is to go and look for the real thing. I think anything like that should be utterly banned without question. I'm sure there's been a lot of cases of child abusers that have been found to have loli content on their PC's.

It's certainly not the same as GTA, or Halo. Those games provide escapism, realistically you can't grab a few 'nades and blow the crap out of your bosses office (as much as we'd love too :P). Loli/rape hentai though, that's a different thing, you don't casually sit back and watch a few rape vids to chill out.

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 00:47
you don't casually sit back and watch a few rape vids to chill out.

Well I originally watched Bay's Transformers movie to chill out.

Edit: It really is the same, it's just wank material. A fetish only available to you in movie/game form. It's totally escapism, it's like saying after reading a vampire book the next logical step is to go outside and start biting peoples necks.

Dr Shaneman
08-06-2009, 00:48
My personal opinion on this is: Hentai is OK and real life stuff isn't. My final verdict.

Rayne
08-06-2009, 01:01
I'm wondering whether I bother posting psychological evidence and case studies to prove I'm right, or just go back to Outrun :ohmy: it's a tough one

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 01:04
I'm wondering whether I bother posting psychological evidence and case studies to prove I'm right, or just go back to Outrun :ohmy: it's a tough one

Why bother? There's no doubt counter research and it nearly always focuses on kids.

Killer French Bread
08-06-2009, 01:04
I see this topic is living up to its mature billling. 8 posts and the discussion is turned into one about anime.

Rayne
08-06-2009, 01:06
I see this topic is living up to its mature billling. 8 posts and the discussion is turned into one about anime.

Anime pornography to be fair, though with fanservice growing it can be hard to tell the difference these days.

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 01:11
Anime pornography to be fair, though with fanservice growing it can be hard to tell the difference these days.

I have no idea why we're even talking about it as it effects none of us.

Apparently the next logical step after viewing a rape scene as a child is to make a freaking awesome trilogy of RPGs. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EarthBound#Development)

Tails_1986
08-06-2009, 01:29
It's bad that I laughed a lot reading the posts?

Anyway, I enjoy watching some hentai every once in a while, but some stuff just puts me off. I enjoy more simple love stories which just happens to envolve sex.

mudokon100
08-06-2009, 02:31
It's bad that I laughed a lot reading the posts?

Anyway, I enjoy watching some hentai every once in a while, but some stuff just puts me off. I enjoy more simple love stories which just happens to envolve sex.

Ditto to both. I like hentai because it's NOT real. I know, it's hard to explain, but it makes for a nice change.
That and it's kinda fun playing a game for hours then going to do something different, yet it being with the same game characters ^^
In my defence though, I would repeat that i realise it's not real, and would NEVER try to emulate half the stuff I've see in real life. Actually, make that about 3/4 of the stuff i've seen. Or possibly 5/6... eeeehhhh you get my point.

On the mention of "stories" though, has anyone here read any erotic novels that stand out? I've read one (well, two actually, there was a sequel) set in the AvP universe, which even made me, with my unbreakable mind, go O.o Although I think that could be attributed to the accompanying artwork... Anyway, point is, anyone else ever read stuff like that? Either for the erotica itself, or because the story's good?

Dr Shaneman
08-06-2009, 11:24
I see this topic is living up to its mature billling. 8 posts and the discussion is turned into one about anime.
This was a starter test to see if people weren't sad enough to post stupid replies. If someone wants to start something else feel free now that I know the members here can be trusted.
You can even start with a general question, that has been a common starter point on other forums.

Rayne
08-06-2009, 18:21
erotic novels set in the AvP universe

...:ohmy: the mere mention of that was enough to break my mind, there's seriously a story about an Alien & Predator getting physical? (more so than the normal clawing, slicing, spitting and shredding)

mudokon100
08-06-2009, 18:32
Erm... no. There's Alien on Alien, and Human on Alien (and vice versa). And one scene of Pred on Pred. It does all have a story though, and said story is incredibly deep and detailed. It gave me a whole new outlook on Xeno's. And if you can look past the intense scratching, hissing, screaming, and everything else, you could even say some of the scenes are quite "sweet".
Oh, and there's an alien on crack. It's practically worth reading the whole thing just to read about her. Unfortunately it's been so long i've forgotten her name. 1 sec... V’hiixsss, that's the one. Yeah, they have strange names, but what do you expect?

On a side note, is linking to the site it's on allowed? Like, just the intro page, that says "warning this site contains material formed in the depths of hell and viewing it will send you into anaphylaxic shock", but not linking to that actual stuff itself?

Sherlock
08-06-2009, 19:10
Alien sex. Hot. Too bad these things probably are not homoerotic. lol.

mudokon100
08-06-2009, 19:45
Ummm... no, they're not. Sorry.
I imagine that's out there somewhere though.

Sherlock
08-06-2009, 20:32
Awww shucks. :3

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 20:38
Why does the Alien have a name?

mudokon100
08-06-2009, 20:45
They all have names. In the story, the queen is born from a woman so intelligent that she attains full sentience, and thus, so does her entire hive. That said, they had names before her arrival, but would have communicated telepathically to each other only, so wouldn't have used them.
And besides, you can't have good character development if they're all called "Alien".

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 20:48
They're violent ant like (according to the comics) killing machines, how much character development do you need?

Dr Shaneman
08-06-2009, 21:30
This is sounding weird even for my standards.

7Force
08-06-2009, 23:23
They should make the next AvP movie based on this book:P

Reknoc
08-06-2009, 23:34
They should make the next AvP movie based on this book:P

Couldn't be any worse than the current films.

mudokon100
09-06-2009, 01:23
I think it would actually make a pretty epic film. It's all from the point of view of the queen, is incredibly detailed as I've said before, and has concepts in it that although I don't believe they're official canon, definitely make sense.
They'd just have to cut out the sex scenes, or at least most of them. So that would be about a third of the story.

But it's not really an "AvP" story - it's about the aliens, and the humans they live with (yeah, that's right, they don't murder them all... at least, they don't murder them all once they realise they can get along and do... things... which shouldn't be mentioned). There are only 2 or 3 scenes involving preds as I recall.

Oh, and there's a new Newborn, this time from a human mother. And he's AWESOME. Y'all really should read it, but I'm still not sure if I can give out the link...

Sherlock
09-06-2009, 09:42
I don't want to read about intercourse like that, sorry. =D

Dr Shaneman
09-06-2009, 12:06
I don't want to read about intercourse like that, sorry. =D
O RLY?

OK, so what does everyone think about the pron industry?

mudokon100
09-06-2009, 14:39
Pron is pron. You get the occasional person a few people recognise, but the whole thing is overrun with amateur vids.
Not that I mind, personally.

Dr Shaneman
09-06-2009, 15:54
^That's why "Amateur" has it's own category.

Sherlock
09-06-2009, 19:44
Ya rly, Shane. =P

Also, at the question at hand. It really depends. I think the gay porn industry is a whole different league when it comes to amateur/professional, since even professional studios try to create a more "natural" environment, and the actors usually are all pretty natural, too.
I know a few gay porn actors, some of them I really adore, too (Brent Corrigan e.g).

mudokon100
09-06-2009, 23:24
I can't stand half the "professional" stuff myself. It's appallingly fake. Those situations just WOULD NOT HAPPEN. In fact, if they did, I don't think it would lead to sex - it would lead to a quick phone call to the police and possibly somebody getting beaten with an everyday household object.
Hence my preference for amatuer stuff, or at most "studio" stuff, where they don't try to make a mockery of real life and just get on with it.

Speaking of the "actors" of the industry, anyone here heard of OG Mudbone? That guy makes me lol.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 01:26
Lol, if those sort of things did happen in real life I imagine Pizza would become many a woman's new favorite food

Zackmaiden
10-06-2009, 03:15
Pron is pron, and I like my pron ;)

Sherlock
10-06-2009, 13:40
Pron is pron, and I like my pron ;)

This posting had no content whatsoever, not to mention that you're still a minor.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 18:30
Well neither did the post 'Awwe shucks' but I see no pitchforks and torches

Any other 18 rated subjects we can cover other than Porn? How about uber gore? Think we're all getting desensitised with all the violence in video games and movies?

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 19:43
BLOOD, BLOOD, GLORIUS BLOOD, THERE'S NOTHING-

Ah dammit, wrong words again. That's the second time I've done that now.
I like a bit of blood, me. A movie that does not contain either sex or violence fails imo. Any that contains both wins epically. Although gratuitous amounts of the latter can sometimes win, if dealt with an epic script.
See Terminator 2 for an example.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 19:49
What do you prefer? A movie that has serious action but little blood (Terminator, AvP, etc) a movie with a fair ammount of blood but a good story (err...umm...you think of one XD) or a movie that totally revolves around gore (The Saw series, Hostel, whatever)

Thoughts on each one? :3

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 19:58
The saw series is pointless. The blood isn't due to action, it's purely for shock value, which is not very entertaining. But I do like seeing some of the ingenious traps.

AvP was actually quite gory imo (the alien flicks it's blood everywhere!), but maybe i only deem it as gory because i value their blood as much as the humans, which i admit it did lack.

I really should correct my earlier comment; violence is all well and good, but if it's JUST violence, I like a story to go with it. And a good story can make up for quite a lot of other shortcomings. Sometimes.

Sherlock
10-06-2009, 20:10
Well neither did the post 'Awwe shucks' but I see no pitchforks and torches

But at least my posting was a direct response to someone else's, as well as I am over 18 - and besides, it's not like Zackmaiden is known for posting lengthy and good posts and following the rules.

Rather keep your trap shut about our moderating, Rayne, you could regret it otherwise. =)

Rayne
10-06-2009, 20:20
Rather keep your trap shut about our moderating, Rayne, you could regret it otherwise. =)

Keh, wouldn't be the first time huh? I shall keep it in mind!

Anyway, I actually quite liked the Saw series, if nothing else but to see what the traps were. The hammy acting and OTT blood was pretty hilarious too :3

I guess AvP does have it's fair share of blood but when it's bright green and acidic...I don't know :S it's harder to take seriously? The second one had some brilliant scenes, like:

The girlfriend getting sliced in half by the windmill shuriken thing, that made me shout 'Oh my fucking god' in the middle of the theatre, along with everyone else :P

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 20:30
Meh, I never saw a good version of the second. It was an abomination of all known Alien and Pred lore (well at least the aliens part), and the story itself wasn't that great of a sequel. It should have been set on the pred ship, but apparently that would have been too expensive to shoot.
Pfff.

Edit: And although I may still be a "minor", might I remind you that this is an 18+ thread. Aka, we could do without the childish threats and comments. That applies to ALL 3 OF YOU. I get enough of adults acting like kids IRL.

Reknoc
10-06-2009, 20:53
I'm not a massive fan of the murderporn genre, really just seems like the director's acting like a kid destroying his toys because he can't make a good movie.

I've not seen the AvP movies fully, but I doubt I'm missing much. Will stick to the comics and games.

I don't mind abit of blood in a movie, if its continuous through out then less is good, but if it's only gonna be for a few scenes then it should be something really "wow", an example would be Silent Hill, not a gory film itself but you find yourself going woah when the Pyramid Head flat out rips a dudes skin off.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 21:07
That was a dudette's skin! There was a solid 5 minute section or razorwire tentacles probing and shredding in areas people just don't want to be shredded. That was a pretty insane movie :3

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 21:08
Oh hell, yeah that is a most excellent scene. Never saw it coming myself, but then I've never played a single SH game, so didn't know what to expect. That movie was one of the few that actually scared me.
I like the "of the dead" movies for consistent, realistic violence. In fact, I think I'll watch the remake of Night right now.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 21:11
I've never played Silent Hill all the way through, so I enjoyed the movie. Same with quite a few movies actually...if you try mention the Dragonball Movie I'll plain rage at the way it's butchered it's source material but I can watch the Tranformers movies and enjoy them as I know little about the lore or history.

The of the dead series is good, have you seen Diary of the Dead? I expected it to royally suck but I ended up really enjoying it.

Is this going too far off topic? :/ there's a movie thread...though here we can talk about gooey blood scenes I suppose...meh ^^"

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 21:28
No, I haven't seen it. It's on my "To See" list. But tell me, are they "runners"? Zombies shouldn't run, that's what's scary about them. They're slow... but they just keep coming...

And although I don't agree with the "learning/memory" aspect either, at least Day and Land weren't runners. And they made good use of it. The early ones are best though - realistic(ish), gory, and you really felt for the survivors as they struggled, both mentally and physically.

Reknoc
10-06-2009, 21:28
They're 18 plus movies though aren't they?

More fictional movies I believe can get away abit more with the gore, especially zombie movies.

Rayne
10-06-2009, 21:31
From my memory I don't think Diary of the Dead has any runners or learners, though they do turn after being bitten pretty fast.

I heard Day of the Dead had supernatural zombies? :S

I hate the idea of running zombies, how the hell is a decaying corpse able to run with more percision than when it was alive? Generally I don't sympathise with survivors as more often than not it's a bunch of high school teenagers that only just stop f***ing each other long enough to shoot the zombie. Land had a pretty good cast and some hilarious gore :D the dude priming a grenade, getting his arm choppoed off, falling on his grenade and then exploding! Whew, unlucky..

mudokon100
10-06-2009, 22:50
Land had some excellent scenes, but focussed too much on the humans for my liking. And at least they made the zombie learning appear realistic (or at least as realistic as you can get with a zombie film). They didn't just suddenly know what to do, they learned through trail and error, and watching the humans.

Day had no "supernatural" zombies. It did, however, have Bub.
Bub loved his adoptive scientist daddy. Scientist daddy taught Bub, reminded Bub what he was as a human. Bub was a soldier. Bub remembers how to use phone. Bub remembers how to use guns. Then mean soldier leader person kills Bub's daddy. This make Bub mad. Bub gets guns. Bub want to make nasty soldier leader person pay.
And thus was the epic Bub scene. Why use bullets when you have a hoard of zombies behind a locked door that would give such a more satisfying revenge for you?

Dr Shaneman
11-06-2009, 00:43
Well neither did the post 'Awwe shucks' but I see no pitchforks and torches

Any other 18 rated subjects we can cover other than Porn? How about uber gore? Think we're all getting desensitised with all the violence in video games and movies?
Rayne, I'm boss of this thread *gets a gun* so remember that.

Gore is awesome, think SAW. SAW is gore!

mudokon100
11-06-2009, 12:54
But that would imply SAW is awesome.
Which it isn't. Sorry.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre had a better plotline to be honest.

richarddavies
11-06-2009, 13:23
No Saw 2,3,4 etc are crap. Saw 1 had one of the most complicated and cool storylines for a thriller/horror in about 25yrs. Chainsaw massacre was about a family that eats people. Or in other words it had no plotline.

Reknoc
11-06-2009, 13:44
No Saw 2,3,4 etc are crap. Saw 1 had one of the most complicated and cool storylines for a thriller/horror in about 25yrs. Chainsaw massacre was about a family that eats people. Or in other words it had no plotline.

To be fair most horror films are shit anyway, they're either "remakes" of Japanese movies or violent versions of Scooby Doo.

richarddavies
11-06-2009, 13:52
^ True. Ironic seeing how horror films are supposed to be for adults, it was only as a kid I could really appreciate the simple stories and SSDD killings.

FPS_Leo
11-06-2009, 13:53
The best gorery film I have ever seen is probibly Battle Royale.:) I think the pure cheeseness of the violence makes it so good!XD

richarddavies
11-06-2009, 13:57
The best gorery film I have ever seen is probibly Battle Royale.:) I think the pure cheeseness of the violence makes it so good!XD

Actually I do think thats a great film. Not seen it in ages either. I watched the second one too. The sequel was......interesting.

Reknoc
11-06-2009, 13:57
The best gorery film I have ever seen is probibly Battle Royale.:) I think the pure cheeseness of the violence makes it so good!XD

That was a good film. I have the book sitting unread on my bookshelf.

Dr Shaneman
11-06-2009, 14:35
...
You're all banned.

Horror films are all I watch really.

mudokon100
11-06-2009, 14:47
I loved the battle royale films. Trust the japanese to come up with the concept "let's get a bunch of kids, stick explosive devices on their necks, and tell them to kill each other or die."

I watch horror, scifi, and comedy, mostly.
And anime. Of course.

I'm sad to say, however, that in my DVD collection (which admittedly isn't that large anyway), I only have 2 things rated 18: Land of the Dead, and the Godfather Trilogy.
Just about everything else, however, is 12 or above. The odd PG I have is a comedy series, like Faulty Towers.

Rayne
11-06-2009, 17:43
My DVD collection looks like the result of a drug fuelled night in a woolworths store. I've got uber gore cult films laying next to disney films and the Miley Cyrus concert.

Nothing wrong with a good PG rated movie though, TMNT FTW

mudokon100
11-06-2009, 18:29
Miley Cyrus concert.

You know that scene from Silent Hill, with the barbed wire?
Do that to yourself. Right now.

Adam Novagen
11-06-2009, 21:24
I've never been a huge fan of gore, horror, or anything to do with excessive mutilation or pain, unless the plot is interesting enough to compensate. I do dearly love a good scare film though. :biggrin:

Although it wasn't exactly super-gory, I thought Pitch Black was a REALLY awesome movie, blending huge ethical issues with fights, scares and sci-fi. I also thought the second Riddick movie - what was it called again? - was excellent, perhaps with an even MORE complicated plot. Those are the kind of movies that make me absolutely forgive their gore content, because they're just so damn GOOD.

I've also always laughed at the whole ludicrous concept of zombies and the undead such, but that's not to say I can't appreciate it; my best buddy & I will sometimes pass the time discussing plans of what to do if the ZA (Zombie Apocalypse) ever hits. I think it's the whole "last few survivors on the run" concept that excites me; not really sure why. Waterworld is one of my favorite survivalistic films.

Rayne
11-06-2009, 21:28
Haha, Adam :D tell me your zombie plan, EVERY man has a zombie plan, I'll elaborate on mine later.

I thought Pitch Black was an amazing movie, great plot, tension, brilliant shooting and lighting! Chronicles of Riddick however was a really tame action flick...not bad but it seemed to throw out plot in favor of special effects.

Dr Shaneman
11-06-2009, 22:22
I love the Riddick films. He kills first and asks questions later.
Any vampire film comes to mind here...
Rayne you've given me an idea too.

Zackmaiden
11-06-2009, 22:25
Has any of you ever seen A Clockwork Orange or Hard Candy?

Killer French Bread
11-06-2009, 22:55
Obviously I've seen A Clockwork Orange you pain in the gulliver.

Mena
11-06-2009, 23:53
Has any of you ever seen A Clockwork Orange or Hard Candy?

Ahh, two of my all time favourite films ^_^ they're so twisted, I've probably watched Hard Candy a good 50 times.

Rayne
12-06-2009, 00:05
I remember Hard Candy. The first 20 minutes are fantastic, it goes downhill from there. It really makes you squirm seeing the dude flirt with the young girl...but her becoming a super predator, chopping off his man vegetables and then him standing up and chasing her after it XD it was all a bit nuts

mudokon100
12-06-2009, 00:08
Clockwork orange is one of my fave films.

EDIT
Haha, Adam :D tell me your zombie plan, EVERY man has a zombie plan, I'll elaborate on mine later.

I, and my friends, are all prepared (at least in knowledge and mental discipline). Unfortunately, the UK lacks easily accessable weaponry, so we're learning CQC techniques before ranged combat, as we all have access to at least some sort of melee weaponry. As for where to go... We know how to prepare our houses, but have yet to locate somewhere suitable to flee to. We're thinking a nomadic style would probably work best for us.

End Edit

Just something I'd like point out, after the subject was raised on another forum: Pornagraphic MMO's. Good or bad. I'll post the little rant I posted on the other forum here to show what I think on the topic...

"I'd have no problem if it actually was a porn mmo. I'd love to play an mmo that actually had that capability. Provided we had mature enough players, it could lead to a great social erm... "improvement".
The problem would be keeping the brats off who come on just to run around naked and yell "fuck me fuck me fuck me lololololol"

The thing is, it's not. It has... dating. Which is a pathetically poor excuse to allow them to put an image like that for advertising.
I'd like to play something along the lines of Endgames from Megatokyo - a game that, although set in a fantasy world like WoW, ENFORCES realistic situations (your character has to maintain their hygeine, or others won't be impressed), and you don't have total control over your character. They develop feelings for other characters on their own, and all you can do is act as a guide."

Most of this was in reference to that advert I posted in the other thread, and it ended up raising this topic. But what do you guys think?

Mena
12-06-2009, 00:14
I remember Hard Candy. The first 20 minutes are fantastic, it goes downhill from there. It really makes you squirm seeing the dude flirt with the young girl...but her becoming a super predator, chopping off his man vegetables and then him standing up and chasing her after it XD it was all a bit nuts

No pun intended? :P And she only pretended to chop him off.

Rayne
12-06-2009, 17:52
Hehe, is it too late to say it was intended and look really smart? :P

Oh she did?! I thought she must have, no way could you get those bits removed and still stand up afterward to chase after little girls ^__^"

Adam Novagen
12-06-2009, 18:07
Haha, Adam :D tell me your zombie plan, EVERY man has a zombie plan, I'll elaborate on mine later.I zipped back here as fast as I could today, just to deliver this. :biggrin:

OKAY. First off, although I'm nowhere near most of you chaps, being in Massachussetts (and I'm not getting any more specific than that) I'm EXACTLY the kind of person you want on your side in a zombie crisis, for the plain & simple reason that I have (and can use very well) an honest-to-god Katana. Short range, true, but high damage in CQC, and no ammo limit.

Second, the family's car is one of the perfect vehicles (discounting specialty stuff) for the ZA. It's a Buick Roadmaster station wagon, which is large, heavy and solid as hell. Plus - I kid you not - this one happens to have a high-powered V8 engine, which means this thing can do ramming speed in 10 seconds or less.

So, the actual plan. Long term, the obvious thing you're going to want to do is get to a power source for communications, life support, etc. A building with a generator can do for emergencies, but it's best to try to reach an area that's powered by a hydroelectric or wind station, since they can theoretically provide constant electricity while unmanned. Hydroelectric stations are the best choice, since they're generally built on dams, thus offering extreme fortification.

WARNING: One thing you MUST remember is to get as far away as possible - at LEAST 25 miles - from any nuclear power plants. These will NOT operate when unmanned, and when left alone & unchecked, they will very quickly go meltdown.

We happen to be about fifteen minutes (in traffic) away from a gun supply store, which I noticed once off of a highway we often travel. It'd be about 5-10 minutes with no traffic or traffic laws, but that's assuming that the ZA doesn't hit suddenly, leaving cars & such strewn over the road. Which brings me to another main point: transportation.

As I said earlier, the family Buick is an excellent crisis vehicle. Being a station wagon, it also allows a lot of space for refugees & supplies. However, for a real rescue vehicle, a tractor trailer would be the best ultimate choice, being the most solidly built with the most room in the back. The only disadvantage here is a major loss in maneuverability.

Beyond that, food is the only major concern, and that can usually be obtained easily enough. Eventually though, some sort of longer-lasting food source would have to be obtained or created, so some sort of garden or plantation field would have to be created & maintained, in an area that's easily defendable of course.

Emergency backup plan: if, for some reason, I & anyone with me should find ourselves unable to escape our hometown immediately, there are a few buildings nearby, namely a solidly built school, that would serve as temporarily defendable outposts. An escape route would have to be found as soon as possible, though.

That's pretty much it. :biggrin:

Rayne
12-06-2009, 18:22
Nice work right there :P in the UK we have no gun stores which is a pain in the butt, though there is a sporting rifle shop near here, but assuming there was a ZA there'd be no chance of travelling there and back.

I'll shut up before I get moved to the other thread >_> but nice!! I'll be running to Massachussetts when the first outbreak occurs.

FPS_Leo
12-06-2009, 19:28
I'd just like to point out that after a certain amount of time nuclear power plants automaticly shut down and that without regual matinece wind turbine sieze-up within a few days, not to ruin anyones zombie escape play or anything.;) May i suggest a generator of some time, probibly a honda one as they are very quiet in operation.:)

Adam Novagen
12-06-2009, 19:36
I'd just like to point out that after a certain amount of time nuclear power plants automaticly shut down and that without regual matinece wind turbine sieze-up within a few days, not to ruin anyones zombie escape play or anything.;) May i suggest a generator of some time, probibly a honda one as they are very quiet in operation.:)

Actually, that's good to know! Thanks! It shouldn't (hopefully) affect the hydroelectric plan, but yeah... Good to know. :)

Dr Shaneman
12-06-2009, 22:04
Nice work right there :P in the UK we have no gun stores which is a pain in the butt, though there is a sporting rifle shop near here, but assuming there was a ZA there'd be no chance of travelling there and back.

I'll shut up before I get moved to the other thread >_> but nice!! I'll be running to Massachussetts when the first outbreak occurs.
We need some gun stores, if zombies were to attack I'd need a good weapons outlet.

mudokon100
12-06-2009, 22:59
It's quite easy to fashion effective melee weapons out of everyday household items. A nail-bat, although crude, can be brutally effective. My friend has one made of a spare bit of flooring.
But then he has REAL katanas as well, so he hardly needs it.

Rayne
13-06-2009, 00:57
Oh yeah? Well my friend has a chainsaw, he once sliced a shark straight in half with it, while surfboarding!

It would actually be fairly difficult to make a good melee weapon from the stuff around my house. You think how much force it takes to obliterate a human skull and look around...perhaps my guitar would work.

Dr Shaneman
13-06-2009, 11:41
^ Good point, anything you make out of house hold items won't be very effective. May buy you some time, but that's it.

mudokon100
13-06-2009, 14:26
Still better than nothing, right?

Also, isn't this convo sorta belonging in the other thread?

Dr Shaneman
13-06-2009, 15:42
Good point, going off too much here.

mudokon100
13-06-2009, 18:40
So...

Anyone here got any fetishes they'd willingly admit to?
I for one have a thing for girls with red hair. By red... you know what I mean. I guess it's 'cos it's the closest naturaly colour to purple, but I don't really go for dyed hair.
I don't misinterpret that as that I have a hair fetish please, it's the colour ^^;

Rayne
13-06-2009, 19:03
I'm with you on that one :3 I find red hair quite attractive on women

mudokon100
13-06-2009, 20:18
If anyone ever questions me on it, I explain genetics to them.
Red hair > Fairer skin > Better vitamin D absorption > better genetics as a whole.

... That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Dr Shaneman
13-06-2009, 20:30
I like girls who wear glasses. A few people know that already though.

7Force
13-06-2009, 21:56
I like girls who wear glasses. .
Same as me. Apart from that I dont have any other fetishes.

Adam Novagen
13-06-2009, 22:05
I like girls who wear glasses. A few people know that already though.

Yeah, strange you should mention that; I've long had a fascination with busty girls with specs. :biggrin:

Redheads are alright, but personally, I find that my all-time favorite color scheme is very pale skin (the paler the better, even up to anemic levels) offset by long, smooth, jet-black hair. There's just something about it to me.

I love, LOVE curvy women, especially busty beauties. In fact, there's an artist on deviantART, name of JollyJack, whose works are right up my alley. You could check out his gallery at jollyjack.deviantart.com (http://jollyjack.deviantart.com/gallery/) if you feel like it. I've even drawn a few lovely ladies in my time (also on deviantART,) although I'm nowhere near as skilled an artist.

On a different note, I love fantasy giantesses (although I do NOT understand the foot fetish) and I can also enjoy well-muscled fantasy amazons. But those are just general perv fantasies. XD

Tails_1986
13-06-2009, 22:17
I usually feel more attracted toward japanese girls or short girls.

Mena
13-06-2009, 22:30
Oh man, I'm not really sure what my "type" is. I have a thing for the typical looking geek/nerd, and long shaggy hair ^_^ I like my guys to be pretty tall and relatively skinny. These are all things Gav is, was, or had at some point :p I wouldn't call them fetishes though.

Rayne
13-06-2009, 22:43
I'm not too much of an expert in the porno terms, but isn't fetish like...a weird preference? Feet or...err...like, the thing with the whips and dog collars XD

Mena
13-06-2009, 22:47
Yeah, we were asked about fetishes but everyone seemed to just go on about what they found attractive :P

7Force
13-06-2009, 22:50
I think fetishes does not always mean stuff like wips & chains but can mean other things like girls with glasses or girls in nurses outfits. You can pretty much use it for anything you find sexy.

mudokon100
14-06-2009, 01:36
The term you're looking for is BDSM. And I agree, fetish, at least to me, jsut means something you find sexy.

I usually feel more attracted toward japanese girls or short girls.

Although I do like japanese girls, I don't specifically prefer them. Of all the girlfriends I've had, only one was ever taller than me, and that's because she hit her "growth spurt" before me, after we'd started going out. I don't really like the idea of going out with a taller girl.
I seem to have a thing for "cute" girls. It's hard to describe, but I'm sure you all can understand what I mean to some degree.

7Force
14-06-2009, 12:15
I usually feel more attracted toward japanese girls or short girls.
I like japanese girls myself. They just look so much more cuter.

Dr Shaneman
14-06-2009, 12:38
Same as me. Apart from that I dont have any other fetishes.
That could mean you are still discovering, but there's nothing wrong with either.

Gavvie
14-06-2009, 14:58
I've been thinking about how best to answer this question, and I think I've got it.

I've not really got a whole lot of fetishes, but for people that I find attractive, I'm not one of the people who find busty women attractive, or one of the main reasons for them being attractive. I prefer smaller breasts, cos they're easier to handle, and don't droop down to the belly button (or lower!) when undressed.

Other than that, for personality I really go for girls who're able to hold a conversation. Sure, you might feel proud that you're dating the gorgeous popular girl, but if her conversational skills aren't great, there's not an awful lot of progression to be made. She has to be smart, and funny, and being attractive helps, obviously.

Dr Shaneman
14-06-2009, 15:11
I can say I'm part of the "delicious flat chest" group.

FPS_Leo
14-06-2009, 15:19
I must admit I also like red hair, don't know why I just do.;) As for breasts, I'm with the two boys in the film "weird science" in that you don't want them to be bigger than a hand-full or you risk injury!:P Although in all honesty it's that gargantuan breasts are just a turn off for me...-_-

mudokon100
14-06-2009, 15:32
I dislike big breasts, they get in the way. Especially fake ones. Why any girl would want that, I don't know. Reductions, yes, to make them more "manageable", but why get them bigger? They only outcome is a bad back, and possibly attractive more men of the sort you probably don't want to be attracting in the first place.

Dr Shaneman
14-06-2009, 15:52
I dislike big breasts, they get in the way. Especially fake ones. Why any girl would want that, I don't know. Reductions, yes, to make them more "manageable", but why get them bigger? They only outcome is a bad back, and possibly attractive more men of the sort you probably don't want to be attracting in the first place.
Plastic, bleh.

Adam Novagen
14-06-2009, 18:12
I'm not too much of an expert in the porno terms, but isn't fetish like...a weird preference? Feet or...err...like, the thing with the whips and dog collars XD

Good question actually; I looked it up on Dictionary.com. Here's the definition that's relevant to this thread:

Fetish
-noun

...

3. Psychology. any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.

So, anything that's not a crotch, yet is a constant source of sexual attraction, can be considered a fetish.

Dr Shaneman
14-06-2009, 18:35
Basically what turns you on.

Mena
14-06-2009, 18:37
So, anything that's not a crotch, yet is a constant source of sexual attraction, can be considered a fetish.

So that'd be boobs as well then?

mudokon100
14-06-2009, 19:22
In that case, a lot of guys have a very strong fetish and don't even realise it.

... I must remember this...

Dr Shaneman
14-06-2009, 22:40
I once heard a quote that went "The human wang is a beautiful thing" XD.

7Force
14-06-2009, 23:46
I've been thinking about how best to answer this question, and I think I've got it.

I've not really got a whole lot of fetishes, but for people that I find attractive, I'm not one of the people who find busty women attractive, or one of the main reasons for them being attractive. I prefer smaller breasts, cos they're easier to handle, and don't droop down to the belly button (or lower!) when undressed.

Other than that, for personality I really go for girls who're able to hold a conversation. Sure, you might feel proud that you're dating the gorgeous popular girl, but if her conversational skills aren't great, there's not an awful lot of progression to be made. She has to be smart, and funny, and being attractive helps, obviously.

Thats pretty much what I like in a women. A good personality and a good talker is what I tend to look for in a women but I seem to like ones who are also cute and shy as well as smart.

As for boob size I dont mind what size they are big or small it does not matter to me.

Tails_1986
15-06-2009, 00:44
I've been thinking about how best to answer this question, and I think I've got it.

I've not really got a whole lot of fetishes, but for people that I find attractive, I'm not one of the people who find busty women attractive, or one of the main reasons for them being attractive. I prefer smaller breasts, cos they're easier to handle, and don't droop down to the belly button (or lower!) when undressed.

Other than that, for personality I really go for girls who're able to hold a conversation. Sure, you might feel proud that you're dating the gorgeous popular girl, but if her conversational skills aren't great, there's not an awful lot of progression to be made. She has to be smart, and funny, and being attractive helps, obviously.

Being able to talk to a girl about various subjects is definetely a must. Unfortunately all girls I know well enough to talk to frequently that can hold their part of a conversation all have someone.:(

Gavvie
19-06-2009, 23:14
Right, so we've had the whole hentai banning issue, and we've had fetishes, and both of these discussions seem to have come to a suitable conclusion. So, I bring you a third question, which I'm sure is going to justify the title of this thread:

What is your favourite sex position and why?

Or, you know, you could just weigh in with opinions as to what you think you'd enjoy etc etc. I can't see this one lasting too long, but it's a question we would've asked eventually.

Rayne
19-06-2009, 23:17
Oh good god...that question is going to give me bad mental images for a long time, I think I'll leave this to run for a few pages XD

Gavvie
19-06-2009, 23:22
Well, we've done the mature discussion bit, why not move into something that everybody's bound to have an opinion on? Seems like it makes perfect sense to me.

Mena
19-06-2009, 23:24
Thoughts on sex can be quite an expansive topic. Perhaps break it up and offer guidlines? Like what you think about abstaining till marriage, your first time, how mature you should be, what current law dictates about it etc. Just a bit more detail about what you expect from the thread so you don't get stuff like "I like it when Gav's hammering away from behind" :P

Yep :cool:

Rayne
19-06-2009, 23:26
Well, we've done the mature discussion bit, why not move into something that everybody's bound to have an opinion on? Seems like it makes perfect sense to me.

Nah, it's cool -_- though personally I'd like to keep it to myself, so I'll pass for now :3

Sherlock
19-06-2009, 23:38
I don't know if anyone would be interested in my input at that topic. =P

mudokon100
20-06-2009, 04:28
I'm all for trying different stuff. Missionary is very intimate, so I like that. Doggy is supposed to drive a girl wild, although I don't know from experience.
I've also heard the Butterfly is supposed to be incredibly good for both, but haven't tried it.

Dr Shaneman
20-06-2009, 13:40
Don't know, never had it and doubt I will for a long time yet.

Sherlock: Tell XD.

Mena: LOL

FPS_Leo
20-06-2009, 13:52
Don't know, never had it and doubt I will for a long time yet.
That makes two of us then?:blush:

Dr Shaneman
20-06-2009, 16:42
That makes two of us then?:blush:
Don't be so shy about it, I get laughed at for it but now I've learnt to not listen.

Adam Novagen
20-06-2009, 17:47
I've also heard the Butterfly is supposed to be incredibly good for both, but haven't tried it.I've a one-track mind, I 'ave, which is ironic since I'm still a virgin. ANYWAY. XD I Googled that immediately, and logged it away in my brain; I have GOT to try that when I can. :biggrin:

Mena
20-06-2009, 21:49
I have no idea what Butterfly is :blink:

Rayne
20-06-2009, 22:18
http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/butterfly.jpg

'A butterfly is an insect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect) of the order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_%28biology%29) Lepidoptera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidoptera). Like all Lepidoptera, butterflies are notable for their unusual life cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_life_cycle) with a larval (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larva) caterpillar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar) stage, an inactive pupal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupa) stage, and a spectacular metamorphosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphosis_%28biology%29) into a familiar and colourful winged adult form.'

...XD sorry, I couldn't resist.

Dr Shaneman
20-06-2009, 22:21
^ I was gonna post a song but resisted... damn Rayne.

Gavvie
20-06-2009, 22:23
If that song was by Take That, I swear I would've found a way to ban you.

Anyway, to remain on topic, I found this via Google (NSFW, obviously): Clicky (http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_butterfly.shtml).

mudokon100
20-06-2009, 22:30
Hmmm. The version I've seen is a variation of cowgirl, but it's fairly similar. I guess it just boils down to being horizontal or vertical ^^ And I imagine it would have about the same result.

Sherlock
21-06-2009, 11:54
Okay, so my thoughts on the positions I've tried - the gay version, lol.

Doggy is, in my opinion, a bit meh. It feels good for the active part, but the passive one doesn't feel all too much, even if the top is well-built. Especially if latter is going rather fast. It also can lead to high uncomfortableness if the two are being differently tall.

Missionary is one of my alltime favourites. You can see your partner's face and body, you can kiss him. Furthermore, the satisfaction is on the highest for both parts (since the penis of the top is pressing harder against the prostate of the bottom).

Spoon is a very nice position. I like it if I have an inexperienced partner I'm topping, since it is extremely comfortable. It's able to create extremely soft and careful sex, so as said, it's perfect for inexperienced bottoms. But it's nice if both are experienced, as well.

Riding is not bad, if I'm not the one who has to ride, lol (I'm lazy). If the riding is happening on a chair, it's far more intense and I like it as the rider, too. Otherwise, I haven't had too much experience on this one.

So yea, that's it. I haven't tried much more, to be honest. ^^

Dr Shaneman
21-06-2009, 13:40
Must admit, I've never heard of spoon before.

Sherlock
21-06-2009, 14:22
That's almost exclusively for anal intercourse, haha.

Mena
21-06-2009, 14:54
That's almost exclusively for anal intercourse, haha.

Not neccessarily, I've done it before and it was pretty comfortable and enjoyable ^_^ I'm yet to do anything involving a chair though :(

Dr Shaneman
21-06-2009, 15:18
Which is probably why.

mudokon100
21-06-2009, 15:33
I've only ever been in the spoon position fully clothed (actually, i tell a lie, i think we were "only just" clothed ^^), but it seemed like doing a lot in that position would be difficult. So I'll keep that one for "cuddling time".
Plus it's still fairly easy for the person behind to reach around so... the fun doesnt quite have to stop ;)

Sherlock
21-06-2009, 15:37
Not neccessarily, I've done it before and it was pretty comfortable and enjoyable ^_^ I'm yet to do anything involving a chair though :(

Hence I said almost exclusively, not absolutely. ;D

Gavvie
21-06-2009, 15:55
Lol, maybe when I get a place of my own me and Mena'll try and involve chairs and other stuff a bit more, but at the moment it can be a bit awkward when you know there's other people around.

mudokon100
21-06-2009, 17:33
I've done stuff on a sofa, but nothing that couldn't be done on a bed.

FPS_Leo
23-06-2009, 21:06
Seeing as this thread has quietened down again I thought I might start a new point of discution.:)
So what I want to know is: What are your thoughts on furry fandom and are you a furry?
If you don't know what furry fandom is wikipedia is here to help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

I wouldn't say I'm a furry although I regularly brows fur affinity (http://www.furaffinity.net/) (which is a site thats similar to deviant art). I don't indulge in the dark side of furry art know as "yiff" (the fandom does get a bad rep because of that).

P.S. I know this might not seem A 18+ topic but it could go that way

Dr Shaneman
23-06-2009, 22:18
No way, I hate that stuff. I can't see people would jack off to it =/.

mudokon100
23-06-2009, 23:25
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m23/mudokon100/suffernotthefurrytolivedesu.jpg

My thoughts on the matter are clear.

7Force
23-06-2009, 23:27
Even though I’m not a furry I do know of the whole yiff thing but I have heard that many furries are not into the whole porn side of the furry fandom and are into furry fandom for other reasons. I’m not sure what they are but I’m guessing it’s for fun and having a laugh with people.

Though many people hate them for what they like I for one don’t hate them for it, I don’t judge people on what they like if they are a good person then that’s all that matters. Sure many of them like the porn stuff but then that’s them, just let them have there fun no matter how many Sonic & Shadow gay porn fan art they draw.




I wouldn't say I'm a furry although I regularly brows fur affinity (http://www.furaffinity.net/) (which is a site thats similar to deviant art). I don't indulge in the dark side of furry art know as "yiff" (the fandom does get a bad rep because of that).


I dont go there myself but I have heard people who dont call themselves furries and like clean anthro art or Sonic fan art clean and un-clean go there. Are you one of those types of people?

Sherlock
24-06-2009, 00:05
To clear up a few misconceptions, seeing as I'm kind of a furry myself:

Furries are all into furry porn!
No. Furry is an interest, not a sexual fetish, despite many people (I'd say the majority) connecting their sexual side with it. But the general consensus is "Being a furry equals in having an interest into anthropomorphic animals". Anthropomorphic here means animals with human features, not only body, but also mind. For instance, the Lion King's characters are furries because they are able to speak.

FurAffinity is full of porn!
Wrong. FA does have its share of pornography, but there are several artists who draw no pornography or erotic artwork at best.

Furry is a sick fetish!
So? I personally think liking fluffy cute things is less harming than being into boobs in the size of Jupiter, underaged girls, snuff/gore or similar things.
Granted, there are things like this involved in the furry fandom, as well, but that's just a minor part. If you think liking people with fur and a dog muzzle is worse than tentacle rape on underaged girls with huge boobs, then k.

All furries wear fursuits and have sex in them!
Wrong again. There's many furries that don't have the desire to own a costume or wearing one, and only a minimal fraction actually has sexual action in them.

Furries want to fuck animals!
lawls. No. In fact, that's again a very small fraction, and there's more non-furry zoophiles than inside of the furry fandom. Furries usually have very tight bonds to animals and love them very much, never wanting to harm them. This doesn't really compute in having sex with one, I'd say.

Thing is, many furries are very open about their sexuality(ies) and interests, so it's not a surprise you see these usually odd fetishes paired up with furry artwork.

I can't deny that furries tend to make drama about how they're hated all over the internet though, especially the "it's not about sex at all!"-stuff. It is about sex, to a big degree - I myself am attracted to anthros. But not to 100%.

Also, just because we're on the topic, a fun fact: It was furries themselves who started the whole hating campaign on 4chan. In the start of the board, majority of its visitors were furries. And there's still many of them there.

Rayne
24-06-2009, 01:24
I agree with Sherlock on a lot of those points, I don't think Furries are always sexual. Looking at a furry creature in a bikini is a lot less harmful than looking at lolicon or gore stuff.

Erm...if someone was sexually attracted to animals, wouldn't a picture of a dog be enough? Why put it in a human form? Not that I understand too much though

As characters I like furries, they're pretty cool. I can't say I've ever found them sexually attractive though.

Sherlock
24-06-2009, 01:42
Yes. If you judge furries by just being themselves and expressing their interests more open, you won't see masterpieces of artwork like this:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/YenoHyena/1244740682xanshabib_isn__t_it_beaut.jpg

(done by the wonderful Xanshabib (http://xanshabib.deviantart.com/)).

See. It's not all porn and stuff. =/

I can understand people not liking the porn, but I don't like hentai crap either, and I still tolerate people liking it. I just couldn't care less what you fap to.

Master hunter
24-06-2009, 02:00
So no-one's pointed out the obvious that Sonic is considered Furry and considering this is a SEGA board.... Do I really have to continue?

Schezo
24-06-2009, 03:36
I'm not really into the pornographic part of the world of furries, but I do like alot of the clean stuff. Hey, I think that goes for most Sonic fans. After all, I (along with alot of other people) grew up with a whole bunch of cartoons starring anthro characters, which I still like today (ahh, the power of nostalgia...). I even draw anthros myself every once in awhile, and actually think that I'm better at it than drawing human characters.

Never understood the hate for furries, especially when there are som much more horrible things one can get turned on by (like allready stated underage, snuff/gore).

And now I'm gonna add Xanshabib to my watchlist, cus that mech design is simply wonderful! Thanx for posting that, Sherlock :)

mudokon100
24-06-2009, 05:12
So no-one's pointed out the obvious that Sonic is considered Furry and considering this is a SEGA board.... Do I really have to continue?

I have seen horrible things. Horrible. Never mention this again. *shakes fist*

I can understand people not liking the porn, but I don't like hentai crap either, and I still tolerate people liking it. I just couldn't care less what you fap to.Do you mean the bad stuff? I hope you do.
I've seen h-scenes, esecially in the games, that are so romantic and heartwarming it's mindblowing. I say in the games specifically, because the whole scene is what does it - the voices, the descriptions, the music, the art, all of that combined. Although I have seen some plain art that was... "sweet". No normal porn could EVER compare to this stuff.
If I could, I would lose my virginity in the style of one of those H-scenes. It would be the best thing ever. Unfortunately, life is far too realistic for it's own good -.-

Sherlock
24-06-2009, 09:15
Do you mean the bad stuff? I hope you do.
I've seen h-scenes, esecially in the games, that are so romantic and heartwarming it's mindblowing. I say in the games specifically, because the whole scene is what does it - the voices, the descriptions, the music, the art, all of that combined. Although I have seen some plain art that was... "sweet". No normal porn could EVER compare to this stuff.
If I could, I would lose my virginity in the style of one of those H-scenes. It would be the best thing ever. Unfortunately, life is far too realistic for it's own good -.-

No, I mean Hentai in pretty much general. I'm not much into anime stuff, and especially not in erotica. There's very little that I really enjoyed, and (due to my sexuality, durr) it's mainly shonen-ai stuff. Rarely, though, and only a few animes that are more cute than anything.

I've also seen many beautiful things including furry artwork, just look at the picture I've posted above. Do you think it's disgusting or ugly? I've also seen extremely romantic pictures. Videos and games I haven't, though I don't know everything and the furry-scene is far smaller than the hentai one. So yea.

I still don't have a problem with you for your sexual interests and fantasies, and I do hope that it's mutual and you won't go and try to flame me at every possible point. *eyes that picture you posted*

mudokon100
24-06-2009, 10:34
I am rather overzealous occasionally, don't mind me.

I may have just witnessed one of the most messed up love stories ever. Sweet, but MESSED UP. Will post details if anyone is interested, considering this is an 18+ thread.

FPS_Leo
24-06-2009, 11:08
I dont go there myself but I have heard people who dont call themselves furries and like clean anthro art or Sonic fan art clean and un-clean go there. Are you one of those types of people?
Yeah I go to FA for the clean anthro art and I wouldn't call myself a furry but some people might but I don't mind that.:)

Adam Novagen
24-06-2009, 17:21
Wow; I had no idea furries had got such a bad rep. :blink:

Personally, I don't really feel one way or another about them, speaking form a sexual standpoint, although that depends on the level of anthropomorphism. In other words, the less human they get, the less sexually appealing they become; I'm no sodemist. :wacko: I don't mind the ones that look like humans with fur, tails & muzzles though; nothing wrong with them. Which should be obvious to anyone who examined JollyJack's gallery when I posted that link, since he does ultra-anthro furries almost exclusively. :P

In general, though, on the "clean" side of things, I think furries are awesome when used effectively, like in that painting by Xanshabib. Let's face it; without clean furries, there'd be no Star Fox, no Sonic, no (gasp!) Sly Cooper. On the "sunny side of the street," I'm all for fur!!! :biggrin:

Gavvie
24-06-2009, 19:39
I've also seen many beautiful things including furry artwork, just look at the picture I've posted above. Do you think it's disgusting or ugly?

I have to admit that I always saw Furry as being a sexual fetish before this debate started on here, so my eyes have definately been opened on that one, and I think I'm a bit more educated as to what it's all about and such. I still think the sexual side is a bit..well..wrong, but the non-sexual side seems to be quite fine. Nothing wrong with liking animals.

As for that picture you posted, that's awesome. It's certainly one of the best pieces of art I've seen on the Internet, that's for sure.

7Force
24-06-2009, 22:15
Yeah I have to admit many furry artists do some really good stuff.

It is quite a shame that furries do get a bad rep sometimes but to tell the truth they are just normal people liking something that other people dont like. I was friends with some people who are furries about 4 years ago and they were really cool people and not sex crazed yiffers that many people make them out to be. One of them did like the yiff side of the fandom but that I did not think that made him a bad person he was a good laugh to talk to. The sexual side I dont think its right or wrong its just something that many furs like and i dont find that a problem its just there thing so let them have there fun.

Sherlock
24-06-2009, 23:09
Fetish is fetish. *shrugs* As long as noone is harmed (against their will at least, dohoho) noone should really care.

Also, I'm a furry. Am I not pleasant to have around? *wiggles eyebrows*

Dr Shaneman
24-06-2009, 23:32
No you aren't XD

Sherlock
25-06-2009, 00:09
Awww, shucks. There I try to be cute and then that. ;-;

Dr Shaneman
25-06-2009, 01:15
Sorry Sherlock, I only fall for female cute. I give you points for trying though.

Sherlock
25-06-2009, 08:58
Oh, well, I tried!

Rayne
07-07-2009, 17:48
Well the thread's died down a little so it's new topic time!

Cheating, no...not in super mario...in relationships. What are your views? have you ever done it? been tempted? general thoughts?

richarddavies
07-07-2009, 18:21
I couldn't personally but I've been with the missus for a few years now and have kids. I couldn't risk that. I bumped into a girl I used to know recently on a night out who was quite forward with me and turned her down flat.

Rayne
07-07-2009, 19:00
That's good to hear Rich :)

I've never cheated on my girlfriend, at one point I was slightly attracted to another girl but we talked it over and I left it at that. I personally would never take it if someone cheated on me -_- if they did, bang. End of relationship.

Where do you think it becomes cheating? Obviously sex and physical behaviour but it's surely possible to cheat on someone emotionally.

Mena
07-07-2009, 20:57
I never would, and I think the people who do it, whatever their reasons/excuses, are scummy.

I think it is possible to cheat on someone without actually having any physical contact with another. Internet/long distance relationships for example. If you're meant to be commited to someone you shouldn't be off having cyber sex with another. Sure, some might say that there is actually no harm done, and it wasn't actually in RL, but if you're capable of taking on a certain persona online then where do you draw the line in RL?

I'd probably take on a personal vendetta to ruin a person if they did it to me, simply ending the relationship wouldn't cause enough damage in my opinion. Being cheated on could ruin a person who's entirely invested in the relationship, so the same should happen to the guilty party.

Rayne
07-07-2009, 21:31
Whoa, well that's terrifying :P but justified.

I find it a really interesting subject ;) I'd hate it to happen to me, I'd hate to do it to anyone else (and frankly I'd never be stupid enough to try).

It's what different people percieve as cheating that really interests me though. Some couples are fine to go off with others so long as it doesn't reach sex, others don't want to their partner to talk to the other sex without permission.

Tails_1986
07-07-2009, 21:44
People that cheat on relationships don't deserve having one. Usually when a person thinks of cheating it doesn't want the relationship it has presently. It would be better to finish the relationship than making the other person pass through hell.

People who cheat are selfish people because they don't care about the feelings of others.

Mena
07-07-2009, 22:28
People that cheat on relationships don't deserve having one.

That's my opinion, clearly they don't understand what it takes to make a person happy.

I know some people can be pretty protective/possessive of their partners, and I have to say I'm guilty of that. Seeing as Gav's not a very social person something would just seem off if he started hanging out with a girl, and given his history with others I'd probably get a little worried. On the other hand, I've got more friends so hanging out with other boys is pretty much par for the course for me, though this took some getting used to for him.

Another thing I don't get is anniversaries. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice thing to celebrate but it shouldn't really be a big deal. it just seems a bit "Hey, look at me, I've managed to stay faithful for x amount of years!" which isn't necessarily the case sometimes :P and shouldn't be difficult.

7Force
07-07-2009, 22:38
I do admit i have cheated in the past but only once on my ex girlfriend because she was seeing someone behind my back so i went out with her mate in a way to get her back. I would never cheat on people but back then i felt i was doing the right thing since she was doing it to me and normaly i would nerver cheat on my GF (if I had one :/) even if the other women who came onto me got naked in front of me and said "do me".

Rayne
07-07-2009, 22:42
Lol@7, if a woman did that to me I would flee :P I would literally see the AIDS crawling all over her...ugh...

My third anniversary is coming up soon :P I am well chuffed, I think it's a brilliant thing to celebrate, not that you've stayed faithful, but you've stayed alive. Overcome troubles and difficulties and things, depends on the relationship I suppose.

7Force
07-07-2009, 22:50
Lol@7, if a woman did that to me I would flee :P I would literally see the AIDS crawling all over her...ugh...



We did not have sex yet and besides if we did i would be smart to have protection. Back then i was a smart 16-17 year old college guy.

Dr Shaneman
08-07-2009, 11:21
Back then i was a smart 16-17 year old college guy.
Hmm...

I've never been with a girl long enough for any cheating to even be thought about, apparently according my last one I'm not loveable.
I can't answer this question yet.

Gavvie
08-07-2009, 22:26
Not wanting to rain on anybody's parade here, but does anybody think we should rename this thread to "Mature Discussions Thread", as I get the impression that we've not really done a lot to warrent it being 18+.

Anyway, I agree with Rayne. Next Sunday (19th) sees me and Mena celebrating four years of happiness together. I don't think it's a celebration of "Hurrah, I stayed faithful for another year", but it's always nice to look back on the years of happiness you've shared.

Sure, you can do that any day of the year, but anniversaries are special :D

Mena
08-07-2009, 23:30
Sure, you can do that any day of the year, but anniversaries are special :D

Ergh, you're coming across as "special"

Rayne
09-07-2009, 00:05
Not wanting to rain on anybody's parade here, but does anybody think we should rename this thread to "Mature Discussions Thread", as I get the impression that we've not really done a lot to warrent it being 18+.

I agree :P we covered sexual positions, preferences, etc, etc...right? Things like cheating or euthanasia is mature but not necessarily 18+ :3

Dr Shaneman
09-07-2009, 15:04
I'm getting bored of the forums so do what you want.

richarddavies
09-07-2009, 15:13
Im not overly arsed either, and to be honest I don't think calling this the 18 + thread would in any way stop people under 18 from checking it out. If anything it draws them to it. Screw it im changing it

NakkunEddouEro
26-07-2009, 05:17
I think Knuckles is really getting boned by the present Sega storylines.

And I'm sure he's ready to hang it up and quit. I can just picture an official pic with Knuckles (SA style) standing there stiffly, one glove off, giving the finger.

With an expression that says, "You screwed with the wrong monotreme. Now I'm going to claw your face off."

Mena
26-07-2009, 13:53
Hahaha, I fail to see how that goes in this thread :p

FPS_Leo
26-07-2009, 14:50
I think Knuckles is really getting boned by the present Sega storylines.

I hope that part of the sentence wasn't the justification!:ohmy:

NakkunEddouEro
26-07-2009, 15:18
I hope that part of the sentence wasn't the justification!:ohmy:
Uhhhh, if that were the case, we'd have to talk about universal...whatnots...and such....

Eggs...no external privates...eeeeeehhhh...e.o...and the whole debate over whether or not specific Mobian physiology was humanized for compatibility between species....O.O

...god, I sure as fuck hope. He'd be the strangest thing you'd EVER see in a dressing room otherwise. O////x////O

Mena
26-07-2009, 16:18
I think that discussion should get moved to the What Are You Thinking (http://www.radiosega.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117) thread.

mudokon100
26-07-2009, 18:34
Had the topic suddenly become about anthropormorphism again?

Dr Shaneman
26-07-2009, 18:42
Change it to sex toys XD.

mudokon100
26-07-2009, 18:43
It would be prefered, I think.

NakkunEddouEro
30-07-2009, 01:28
...I have a problem with the name "Lake Titicaca".

The lake contains neither boobs nor poo. If it did it'd have more tourism.

XD

sonicfanRICH
30-07-2009, 07:11
^ Hahahaha....random.

Dr Shaneman
30-07-2009, 12:17
...I have a problem with the name "Lake Titicaca".

The lake contains neither boobs nor poo. If it did it'd have more tourism.

XD
Maybe you need to dive in head first.

NakkunEddouEro
30-07-2009, 16:17
Maybe you need to dive in head first.Well, no, then it'd just have a cute gay boy in there. Still wouldn't have boobs.

mudokon100
31-07-2009, 08:17
Alright boys (and the occasional girl), this is a mature discussion thread, so time for a mature question:
What type of condom do you recommend?

Best advice before 1pm decides whether I return this 3 pack of "extra safe" and get a variety pack or something.

NakkunEddouEro
31-07-2009, 08:51
Alright boys (and the occasional girl), this is a mature discussion thread, so time for a mature question:
What type of condom do you recommend?

Best advice before 1pm decides whether I return this 3 pack of "extra safe" and get a variety pack or something.Well, ribbed is good if one is cut...sensation wise that is. Otherwise I'd get one that's rather thick and lubricated on both sides.

edit: ...aw hell, this is a trap, huh? -slaps forehead-

mudokon100
31-07-2009, 12:36
So that's basically one vote to stick with what I have.
Okay... anyone else?

Mena
31-07-2009, 23:57
I've used a variety of stuff. So far Tingle is my favourite. We started off on Extra Safe but they were such a struggle to get on that I just couldn't be bothered afterwards. That's probably why they're called Extra Safe, they put you off having sex :p There's also Pleasuremax (ribbed) and Sensation (dotted) which did absolutely nothing for me, same with Performa, there wasn't really any difference in duration. So yeah, that's my experience with condoms. Tingle ftw!

http://radiofuzionactiva.net/perfectspade/news/data/upimages/tingle.jpg

NakkunEddouEro
01-08-2009, 01:28
I've used a variety of stuff. So far Tingle is my favourite. We started off on Extra Safe but they were such a struggle to get on that I just couldn't be bothered afterwards. That's probably why they're called Extra Safe, they put you off having sex :p There's also Pleasuremax (ribbed) and Sensation (dotted) which did absolutely nothing for me, same with Performa, there wasn't really any difference in duration. So yeah, that's my experience with condoms. Tingle ftw!

http://radiofuzionactiva.net/perfectspade/news/data/upimages/tingle.jpgTeehee, how could I forget Tingle? Sexy sexy Tingle. <3 -handflip-

...They make me feel like an electrical outlet. Ahh~

...

Okay, I get the general consensus. -punches self in face repeatedly.-

mudokon100
01-08-2009, 02:37
What brand are "tingle"? I didn't see them...

Mena
01-08-2009, 22:22
All the ones I mentioned are Durex.

Gavvie
02-08-2009, 00:21
Shows how much I remember. I remember the Extra Safe ones, and I remember those truly awful ones your Uni gave out, but I don't remember the Performa one. Did we only use that one the once?

Mena
02-08-2009, 00:28
Nah, there were three Performa ones. I forgot about the Greenwich ones, they were ribbed or dotted or soemthing, weren't they?

Gavvie
02-08-2009, 00:34
I forget, I think we had decided that they were utter shite and left them in the wardrobe, never to be used again.

mudokon100
02-08-2009, 03:04
Well tbh these Extra Safe are probably gonna end up at the bottom of a pile of things forgotten about anyway.

Dr Shaneman
02-08-2009, 13:44
My college gave out some Durex ones I think...

mudokon100
02-08-2009, 21:45
I wonder if they'll do that at uni... I doubt it. I know our school didn't, cheap bastards that they are.
They made sure to bring in "crazy dildo lady" to tell us all how to have sex though (and fail at it, then get mocked by us as we all knew more than her).

7Force
02-08-2009, 22:01
We started off on Extra Safe but they were such a struggle to get on that I just couldn't be bothered afterwards. That's probably why they're called Extra Safe, they put you off having sex


I thought Extra Safe was designed for butt sex?

NakkunEddouEro
02-08-2009, 23:38
I thought Extra Safe was designed for butt sex?
...uh yeah, that's kinda the idea.... :sweatdrop:

Mena
03-08-2009, 00:06
I thought Extra Safe was designed for butt sex?

As far as I'm aware Durex's range is intended for vaginal use only. Says somewhere on the package.

mudokon100
03-08-2009, 00:35
According to the leaflet in my pack, all except Tingle can be used for anal. But still need lots of lube.
So there you go.

Oh, and apparently the lube on the "Performa" brand causes irritation, so don' put it in your eyes?!

NakkunEddouEro
03-08-2009, 00:45
...Ummmm...Oops?

What was supposed to happen if you did use Tingle for that kind?

(no idea, the clinic gave a cute little present-style bag of assorted condoms and other fun stuff out to every couple last Dec. for a "Safe Christmas"...didn't bother me a bit, but someone was obviously not reading the box if they're not supposed to be....)

mudokon100
03-08-2009, 01:20
I'd imagine they're thinner than normal, or the lube they use (which supposedly gives the "tingling" sensation) is not actually as lubricating as the others. And probably doesn't work for anal. That's just a guess though, having never tried it myself.
So I'm basically trying to say they probably break easier.

NakkunEddouEro
03-08-2009, 03:44
Hmm, never noticed any problems. The only condoms that have ever broken in my experiences are the flavored ones....

Those are not recommended for anything but oral sex, I later found out, and girls are not the only ones with a delicate balance of flora.

I'm sure you all know what I mean...in case you don't, anyone without a Y chromosome can tell you.

TL;DR - Do not use flavored anything in anything but your mouth.

Dr Shaneman
03-08-2009, 12:11
I thought Extra Safe was designed for butt sex?
You'd obviously know, aye?

7Force
04-08-2009, 22:03
You'd obviously know, aye?

Fuck no I'm not into any of that I seem to remember being told that by the teacher back in high school when we was doing sex education.

Dr Shaneman
04-08-2009, 22:21
Fuck no I'm not into any of that I seem to remember being told that by the teacher back in high school when we was doing sex education.
=P.
I'll buy it for now.

mudokon100
04-08-2009, 23:13
I don't buy it. He says it as though sex-ed in schools is actually helpful for anyone with a computer.

7Force
04-08-2009, 23:37
Dude this was way back in 1997-98 back then there was no such thing as the internet, well at least for some people.

Dr Shaneman
05-08-2009, 00:39
There was for me, but I wasn't such a pervert as I am now.

mudokon100
05-08-2009, 01:49
Being that I was 8, I only used the internets for neopets.

And by gods I have to stop going on ED. It's fscking frightening. What is WRONG with these people!?

Dr Shaneman
05-08-2009, 12:33
I used to spend hours on Miniclip.

mudokon100
17-08-2009, 19:32
Saw some of them Tingle in superdrug today. And I have a girl coming over on wednesday >.> Damn my mother being with me, I half considered buying them anyway lol.

Siriku
30-08-2009, 15:50
I've only worn a condom once, other then that, no protection (although I only slept with the one girl, so). Although since I got all paranoid about STD/STI's (which I came out clear on FYI,XD), i'll always wear them from now on.

*shudders* HIV test = not fun.

Mena
01-09-2009, 23:03
*shudders* HIV test = not fun.

I'm so glad I've never had to go for a test like that. Here's hoping I never have to, though I have such joys as a smear test to look forward to in coming years!

mudokon100
02-09-2009, 13:54
All these talks of tests are enough to make me seriously consider abstinence.