I do partially agree with you Rayne, there should definitely be more focus on degrees that actually benefit society, such as science, medical, engineering, etc.
But, what the old government did was make University more accessible for those that couldn't afford it. Before, it was only really the rich that could afford to get such an education.
Students do pay back their loans and fees over time though.
Personally speaking, I wish I had chosen to study something at University which would have more benefit to society, rather than games design. But, it's certainly helped me develop myself a lot more than just the course itself. It helps educate you in other ways, if you apply yourself enough.
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The BBC / Open University's More Or Less radio show recently covered this, and I thought it was rather interesting:
moreorless_20101210-1528a.mp3
Among other things it suggests the income threshold and fee levels will be such that many students, particularly arts students, may never even pay off the full loans before they are written off after 30 years.
moreorless_20101210-1528a.mp3
Among other things it suggests the income threshold and fee levels will be such that many students, particularly arts students, may never even pay off the full loans before they are written off after 30 years.
There was an echidna from Vegas
Whose hairstyle was totally outrageous
When asked by the cops
Why the dreadlocks
He told them the idea was Sega's
— The Typing of the Dead
Whose hairstyle was totally outrageous
When asked by the cops
Why the dreadlocks
He told them the idea was Sega's
— The Typing of the Dead
This, it was open to those determined enough to work hard and secure the funding they needed.Killer French Bread wrote:The previous system detered the mediocre, not the poor.
@Cap - It's not a personal tirade against you, it's that just about everyone I know that's went to uni is a complete waster studying drama or some shite. For some it's a growing up experience, which is fine, for most of the people I see it's more of a drinking contest with occasional exams getting in the way
But surely that system only worked for people who were already in employment? Some jobs require degrees before experience usually, like becoming a doctor. My parents worked in craft-related jobs or mining, they never went to University, partly because I don't think they were encouraged to.
Rayne, don't worry, I'm not taking this discussion personally or anything
In my case, I did go to Uni to see what it was all about and partly because no one in my family had, not because I was trying to work towards a particular career path. But, that doesn't mean I've just coasted through the past two and a half years having fun. Even my degree, which is actually pretty easy compared to the 'core' subjects, is a lot of hard work.
Rayne, don't worry, I'm not taking this discussion personally or anything

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I just want to point out that is thread is great.
I was in the pub a while back and I was talking to a young copper about riots, I asked him if he really thought that 'kettling' was a viable tactic as I think it's one of the most stupid things you can do to group of non violent people. For the sake of people who dont know what I mean by 'kettling' Its where police split up a group of large people (usual in a cross formation) and keep them enclosed. This is apparently to split up radicals and stop them organising and rioting. Of course this has side effects... what do you guys think? Has this happened to anyone?
Anyways I feel for anyone wanting to go to uni next year.
I was in the pub a while back and I was talking to a young copper about riots, I asked him if he really thought that 'kettling' was a viable tactic as I think it's one of the most stupid things you can do to group of non violent people. For the sake of people who dont know what I mean by 'kettling' Its where police split up a group of large people (usual in a cross formation) and keep them enclosed. This is apparently to split up radicals and stop them organising and rioting. Of course this has side effects... what do you guys think? Has this happened to anyone?
Anyways I feel for anyone wanting to go to uni next year.
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